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Old 09-20-2021, 02:40 PM   #1
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How many Bar Sensor?

Question...how many bar sensor does our ZL1 use and when the car is modded with a 2650 and cam, is it changed?
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:46 PM   #2
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Stock is a 4 bar TMAP, no need to change from the perspective of pressure measurement limits.
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:53 PM   #3
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Stock is a 4 bar TMAP, no need to change from the perspective of pressure measurement limits.
Ok, thanks..I was curious cause of tuning the VE. Didn't realize it went that high
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Old 09-20-2021, 08:04 PM   #4
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Yeah, not sure why they went 4 bar... I actually considered going to 3 bar map to get better resolution in SD tuning but never got around to it.
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Old 09-20-2021, 08:13 PM   #5
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Yeah, not sure why they went 4 bar... I actually considered going to 3 bar map to get better resolution in SD tuning but never got around to it.
By chance do you remember where the setting is to select what bar it is? Been a long while since I looked at that setting. Just want to verify it's correct.
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Old 09-20-2021, 08:20 PM   #6
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Engine\Airflow\General\MAP (this is just info more or less about the expected values on car)
Max = 180 kPa
Min = 10 kPa

Engine\Airflow\General\MAP Estimation (these are the important values for MAP, stock LT4 settings):
MAP Sensor Linear = 425 kPa
MAP Sensor Offset = -32.50 kPA

The MAP sensor for example used on LS9/LSA is a 3 bar:
MAP Sensor Linear = 312.5kPa
MAP Sensor Offset = -11.25 kPA
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:38 AM   #7
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thanks for the info!!
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:50 AM   #8
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Isn't there also a place in either VVE or VT tables that you select how many bar you are running? I cannot seem to find it. I could be wrong though!
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:52 AM   #9
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Yes I was just going to post this. Click on the Map/Baro axis label(left side of the map) in VVE and you can select Bar 1-3 in the default drop down menu.
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:12 AM   #10
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Yes I was just going to post this. Click on the Map/Baro axis label(left side of the map) in VVE and you can select Bar 1-3 in the default drop down menu.
thanks..do we still choose 3 even though im told we use a 4bar on the ZL1?

Also, have you tried logging using the FlowFactor pid?
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:11 AM   #11
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If you are running more then 14.7psi boost then you need to use 3 bar. Just because the MAP is 4 bar doesn't mean you have to use 4 bar scale for tuning. 3 bar covers up to 29.7psi of boost.

No I haven't had a chance to try it.
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If you are running more then 14.7psi boost then you need to use 3 bar. Just because the MAP is 4 bar doesn't mean you have to use 4 bar scale for tuning. 3 bar covers up to 29.7psi of boost.

No I haven't had a chance to try it.
ok, i tried but it i just get zeros. Not sure why it works on Goats Z06 but not a ZL1 with same motor
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:45 AM   #13
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The flow factor PID just reports zeros?
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:48 AM   #14
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The flow factor PID just reports zeros?
rewatch his video and u will see it show various numbers cause he even commented about 32%
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