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Old 01-25-2018, 11:57 AM   #1
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What is needed in the next Gen Z/28?

With all the engine talk, platform talk. What is needed for the next Gen Z/28 to beat the competition? How do these help? Pros/Cons?

High Reving engine?
HP?
Tq?
Braking?
Aero?
Weight?

Anything that needs added to this list?
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:02 PM   #2
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With all the engine talk, platform talk. What is needed for the next Gen Z/28 to beat the competition? How do these help? Pros/Cons?

High Reving engine?
HP?
Tq?
Braking?
Aero?
Weight?

Anything that needs added to this list?
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:10 PM   #3
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To me the Z/28 should be this.

Take the ZLE with a hot LT-1.

It would easily be the best performing NA Camaro. And that IMO is what a Z/28 should be
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Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:37 PM   #4
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To be honest, I don't think the Z is needed...period. I would argue that it is no longer relevant. My big reason for this is that the Z cars were never about being fully stripped down, track only kind of cars. They were great handling, but normal, Camaros. They had a full interior, they had this, they had that.... they weren't the fastest ones, but they were the best handling ones...

And with the creation of the ZL1 1LE, and how well the 1LE package is on the SS, I just don't see much point for GM to care enough about this setup. I mean really, short of building a full on track purpose car only, there is zero reason to do this..


That being said.... if they truly want to build a track focused N/A car.... Shaffe has already given you the right answer.....

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To me the Z/28 should be this.

Take the ZLE with a hot LT-1.

It would easily be the best performing NA Camaro. And that IMO is what a Z/28 should be
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:47 PM   #5
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To me a Z/28 need to push the line forward, its the test bed for the car, so what i think is coming in the next Z/28.


all new motor with 4 valve per 2 cam per, that is what the new C8 is getting and i don't see why it will not come out in the new Z/28.


one of the new tremco TR-9007 DCT 7-speed dual clutch transmission, i dont know of more then a hand full of cars that can use this.

think the rest is OK.
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:49 PM   #6
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To be honest, I don't think the Z is needed...period. I would argue that it is no longer relevant. My big reason for this is that the Z cars were never about being fully stripped down, track only kind of cars. They were great handling, but normal, Camaros. They had a full interior, they had this, they had that.... they weren't the fastest ones, but they were the best handling ones...

And with the creation of the ZL1 1LE, and how well the 1LE package is on the SS, I just don't see much point for GM to care enough about this setup. I mean really, short of building a full on track purpose car only, there is zero reason to do this..


That being said.... if they truly want to build a track focused N/A car.... Shaffe has already given you the right answer.....


This guy gets it ^
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But thank god its not only you guys that have a say, unless its you Al, Jk
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Old 01-25-2018, 01:27 PM   #9
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To be honest, I don't think the Z is needed...period. I would argue that it is no longer relevant. My big reason for this is that the Z cars were never about being fully stripped down, track only kind of cars. They were great handling, but normal, Camaros. They had a full interior, they had this, they had that.... they weren't the fastest ones, but they were the best handling ones...

And with the creation of the ZL1 1LE, and how well the 1LE package is on the SS, I just don't see much point for GM to care enough about this setup. I mean really, short of building a full on track purpose car only, there is zero reason to do this..


That being said.... if they truly want to build a track focused N/A car.... Shaffe has already given you the right answer.....
I've been saying this same exact thing for over a year. Why build another hardcore track weapon when the ZL1 1LE is already here? Why step on your own toes? There is only so much room for such a vehicle, let alone one company selling two of them.
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:28 PM   #10
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I've been saying this same exact thing for over a year. Why build another hardcore track weapon when the ZL1 1LE is already here? Why step on your own toes? There is only so much room for such a vehicle, let alone one company selling two of them.
The GT3 doesnít stop the GT2 or GT4. Some people want maximum horsepower and interior gadgets. Some want n/a and stripped down. You can do both, if they wanted to.
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The GT3 doesnít stop the GT2 or GT4. Some people want maximum horsepower and interior gadgets. Some want n/a and stripped down. You can do both, if they wanted to.
I completely agree there...BUT, the Z/28 isn't a stripped down/max power car. It's meant to be basically a road car....

Perhaps if they had done the 1LE as a Z/28 package....and then offered a 1LE S/C package....ok...that makes more sense.
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The Z/28 is a Trans Am race car. The street cars were just to qualify. After the 2nd gen Z/28, GM just threw the Z28 badge on the base V8 car. It didn’t mean anything at that point.
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The Z/28 is a Trans Am race car. The street cars were just to qualify. After the 2nd gen Z/28, GM just threw the Z28 badge on the base V8 car. It didnít mean anything at that point.
And yet, every generation Z/28, except the 5th gen, has been a normal Camaro with slightly better handling suspension and a little less power than the SS Camaro.

So while it's roots may have been Trans-Am racing, it was never a gutted, track car.
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And yet, every generation Z/28, except the 5th gen, has been a normal Camaro with slightly better handling suspension and a little less power than the SS Camaro.

So while it's roots may have been Trans-Am racing, it was never a gutted, track car.
Every generation but the 1st, 2nd and 5th. The Z/28 sold to the public may have never been a gutted track car but it wasn't just a decent driving car either. The fact is the Z/28 was intended to be a track car first. Why else would they be selling the street Z with a 302 small block?
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