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Old 07-30-2019, 08:38 AM   #15
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I believe even the base 1500 will tow 6,700 and that's with the 4 cylinder turbo. from there it goes up to 12k depending on cab, engine, and towing package. 1500 should is more then capable of hauling the SS at 3,700 and the open trailer at maybe 2-3k. I would agree wheel dollies would be the way to go for cost savings.
While I agree a 1500 can easily pull an open trailer with a 6th gen on it you do have to be careful with the BS tow ratings that are only accurate for trucks people rarely buy (base model regular cab with all tow packages added). People should pay attention to the payload, subtract all human and cargo weight then whatever you have left is the max tonque weight (generally 10-15% of total trailer+cargo weight).

It's pretty easy to find loaded crew cab 1500s with the top motor, tow packages, etc with 1,200-1,300lb payloads. If you put 500lbs in the truck then you can tow ~7,000lbs with one of those "12k max tow rating" trucks.

Really GRAWR matters most but few people are going to cat scales with a 1500 and an open trailer ha

OP: Get the trailer with the widest width fender to fender that you can find that meets your quality/price standards. These cars are wide. My SS 1LE barely fits on my Featherlite and the ZL1 1LE is even worse. The featherlite 3182 is a narrow 79". And 81-83" width between fenders would be a much more comfortable loading/unloading experience.......
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:39 AM   #16
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If you dont want to store a trailer, the two dolly option is easy and cheap. friend of mine did this for years with his 69 camaro.
Never seen or heard of this double dolly method. Googled and found no pics do you have any and how exactly do you get the car on? Do you basically build your own trailer by connecting the two dollies?
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:41 AM   #17
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Ok let's see a showing of hands. How many have ever seen a class 2 hitch on a truck?.
Bumper hitch. Put a ball in the bumper and go. Some are rated higher. The load ratings are usually stamped on it.


That being said, You guys can do whatever you want. I'd just hate to see a "Wrecked my truck, my trailer, AND my Camaro today going to the track" thread.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:43 AM   #18
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I'll sell you this trailer as I never use it anymore
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:48 AM   #19
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Never seen or heard of this double dolly method. Googled and found no pics do you have any and how exactly do you get the car on? Do you basically build your own trailer by connecting the two dollies?
I think he meant two wheel dolly.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:59 AM   #20
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I have a colorado with diesel and it has a tow rating of 7700. I tow all kinds of crap with it. Canam X-3 weighs about 1500 plus trailer weighing about 1500 total 3000 tows fine. I could probably fit my car on my trailer but it only has a rating of 3500 so i would probably be a bit over the rating.



I think u-Haul is just being safe with there rating numbers as ive seen someone on this forums with a colorado and a camaro on a trailer and there towing it.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:37 PM   #21
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Never seen or heard of this double dolly method. Googled and found no pics do you have any and how exactly do you get the car on? Do you basically build your own trailer by connecting the two dollies?
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:07 AM   #22
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I towed a 3600lb BMW 525i with a Colorado using a Uhaul trailer.
Put on the website what I was towing and it let me rent it.

My truck is rated to tow 7K lbs. the uhaul car hauler is not too heavy - under 2K lbs.
so I was right about 6K including cargo. Towed it 300 miles. Did great. No issues.
The trailers are set up for about 10pct of weight on the hitch. So under 600lbs on the hitch also within the ratings.

But that’s about the max I would tow with that truck.
Used to use a 2500 burb with 8.1 when I was racing and towing all the time.
That sucker was a beast. Could barely tell a trailer was back there. Barely reduced the MPG too. Ha. The colo got about 12 towing. Still better than the burb unloaded. Ha
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:02 AM   #23
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You're awful brave towing a 4k car with a 1500. You really need at least a 3/4 ton.
Apparently you haven't seen the 1500's they have been making over the last 5years?????? Considering you have a 20 year old F-150 you are correct i'm surprised that thing can even pull it's own self down the road, most 1500's built in this decade are rated at 10K+ for towing.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:15 AM   #24
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I'm running a 18ft steel deck with etrack, even with my "little" 1500 I can set the cruise at 85mph with no issue. This set up has towed thousands of miles with no issue.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:30 AM   #25
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From GM:
HOW TO KEEP YOUR LOAD WITHIN THE CAPABILITIES OF YOUR VEHICLE It is important that the combination of the tow vehicle and trailer does not exceed any of its weight ratings — GCWR, GVWR, RGAWR, trailer weight rating or tongue weight



I can see it now... "HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS!"

From Uhaul on their "auto transport" trailer:

Must weigh at least 3,500 lbs. (curb weight), and must equal or exceed 80% of the combined weight of the trailer (2,210 lbs.) and the vehicle being towed (up to 5,290 lbs.).
Must have a towing system that has a 5,000 lbs. minimum weight-carrying rating.


3800+2210= 6010 - 20% = 4808#'s.

2019 Colorado curb weight.... 4381#'s.

Translation: Outta luck with the Colorado.



That must of been interesting to look at/drive. I have a 30ft enclosed trailer and even the thought of putting that on the back of my 2002 4.sux F150, let alone making it out of the driveway, would amaze me.

That POS needs front pads and rotors every 20k trying to use it as a work truck. I could only imagine what a couple of hard stops would do with a 10k gross trailer pushing it from behind.



Exactly. Just because your trailer fits the ball on the back doesn't mean it is safe.
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Old 08-23-2019, 09:57 AM   #26
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For these knuckleheads that say you should not haul a 4000 lb camaro on a 2000lb trailer with a 1500 pickup.

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Old 08-23-2019, 10:30 AM   #27
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Ya - the Colorado is more capable than 1/2 tons from 10 years ago, and about the same size for that matter. The new 1500's are as big and more capable than 2500's from 10 years ago.

And I've logged a ton of miles towing race car trailers (open) with everything from 90's Dodge Durango's to 1500 and 2500 Suburbans, the nissan full size (Titan and Armada), 2000 era 2500 HD silverados and the latest Colorado. One thing I can say with confidence - what the MFG's use as their tow ratings, GVWR and tongue load limits are pretty much spot on. 90's era 1500 burbs were rated to tow about 5500-6000 lbs depending on the model and that was truly what they could handle. Even the 2000 era 2500HD silverados were only rated to around 10Klbs which is about where the current crop of 1500 pickups come in. That is complete overkill for a 5500lb car trailer set-up. And there is certainly no need to go up to the current crop of 2500 or 3500 trucks - those are really needed these days only if you have a 5th wheel or a super huge enclosed trailer maybe - especially if you tow a lot and diesel is going to be a better choice for mpg and torque curve. 5500lb car trailer isn't that much of a load IMHO.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:49 AM   #28
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You're awful brave towing a 4k car with a 1500. You really need at least a 3/4 ton.
We pulled a ~8,000lb travel trailer from KY to SC using a 2014 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3. It has the "max tow package" rated to 10-12k. We did use a sway control hitch though.

Do I recommend it? No! It was hell on the truck, but it still did it safely, which is all that matters to me.
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