12-10-2019, 09:09 PM | #1 |
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Headers gain?
I currently have intake and e85 tune. Planning on doing LT headers and a retune. How much HP should I expect to gain? What brand header do you guys recommend?
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12-11-2019, 05:41 AM | #2 |
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20 whp
The cheapest you feel comfortable using
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12-11-2019, 08:36 AM | #3 |
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I picked up 20 hp with kooks headers and cats. I think most brands will yield similar gains, but fitment and quality will be worse with cheaper headers.
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12-11-2019, 09:09 AM | #4 |
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You will probably see 10-20 from the headers and another 5-10 from the tune changes. Some of it depends on the brand and size of the headers and if you are going catted or catless.
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12-11-2019, 11:02 AM | #5 |
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20 whp? That's more than I thought. Yes currently have all 4 cats so if I do the headers I'll get rid of all 4
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12-11-2019, 12:00 PM | #6 |
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i have afe power catted ones check them out below!
https://afepower.com/afe-power-48-34...-street-series
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12-11-2019, 12:31 PM | #7 |
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12-11-2019, 01:29 PM | #8 |
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This could be BS, I don't think he told me this due to a financial sponsorship related to TS, but Jeremy Formato told me TS 2inchers make more power in his testing than American Racing, I believe he stated the primaries were longer. Both Jeremy and Pray recommend 2inch headers btw.
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12-11-2019, 02:59 PM | #9 |
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Get high flow cats. Catless stinks. Its worth less hp then the acuracy of the dyno 2hp
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12-11-2019, 03:37 PM | #10 |
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I'm sure this is conditional on things such as primary tube size but I'm curious if anyone noticed a loss of torque at lower RPM's and less than 100% throttle. (ie...25-50%) Put headers on my 5.0 and it did effect the lower engine speed/part throttle engine response/torque. I know that is a completely different engine but I'm just curious how the LT1 responds. I dont recall my LS2 losing anything at low engine speed. OP, I hope this isn't a hijack Hopefully its useful information.
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12-12-2019, 06:18 AM | #11 |
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Agreed, I went catless because I wanted a bit more sound. Wish I would have gone catted. If I could find a pair of TSP cats for sale, I'd probable buy them.
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12-12-2019, 07:15 AM | #12 |
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That 2hp difference is not a constant for everyone and all setups.
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12-12-2019, 08:19 AM | #13 |
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its not enough to make a difference.
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12-12-2019, 09:16 AM | #14 |
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It absolutely is. When can debate what enough of a difference is all day, but the fastest builds out there are by and large not catted, and you won't have to worry about clogging or burning them.
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