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Splat · 10-29-2017, 02:40 AM

Took awhile, but I read all 17 pages...... and what I cant understand is, why aren't you taking the offer from Moddiction!!!

I can truly understand your situation OP, and I'm really on your side..... don't agree on some things, but I'm on your side.........but God Dam, take the offer and then resell.

G701LE · 10-29-2017, 12:00 PM

I am not signing anything saying I give up my rights to warranty. Due to this head unit not pumping oil.... Otherwise, I would have been all over it! I don't have the money to take that big of a hit for something, I feel, wasn't my fault.

Moddiction · 10-29-2017, 01:52 PM

You give up rights for warranty if not professionally installed. I know you still don’t think you did anything wrong with install but all signs point to the fact it was installation error. Because of this we’re not sending a free replacement supercharger just to possibly have it seize again.

G701LE · 10-30-2017, 10:46 AM

I just read your comment on my CC chargeback. Why do you keep mentioning the banjo bolt??? There was NO METAL IN THE UNIT!!!! I broke it with one hand, that is how easy they are to snap. So, let's put that aside. It was a mistake, but not a problem. So now to the oil not pumping. Let's pretend that I did get another head unit and the same problem happened? Warranty or no warranty, I know how this all plays out! I truly am sorry there isn't a better way to go about this. I have nothing against you Moddiction. This just a lot of money for a poor boy. Believe me, I would have rather gone after Kraftwerks or Rotrex. But.........that is not where I purchased it.
FWIW. In the end of this ordeal. It was real confusing on who to listen to. The very first time I had a question I came to you. What did you do? Push me off to Kraftwerks facebook page. I truly am sorry you have to take the brunt of this.......

Moddiction · 10-30-2017, 11:18 AM

The blower was never primed you said. Which is why it seized. It has to be primed as per the instructions that come with the supercharger which it seems you must have missed.

Every other kit out there has had no issues with oil pumping through it. Just has to be primed as per instructions.

I will still honor the replacement blower if chargeback is cancelled for another few days. If it goes the whole length and we win chargeback(all signs point to we will) there will no longer be a replacement offer on the table. You would have to buy another blower at full cost or sell the kit without a blower on the used market.

A free replacement blower is as generous of an offer as possible. I'm splitting costs with Kraftwerks on it and that's just money out of our pockets even though the fault has been shown to be user error.

Taylortoons · 10-30-2017, 12:43 PM

G701LE, your best offer is on the table.

Moddiction, I wouldn't debate any longer. If he cancels the chargeback, hold up your end of the deal. If not, he made the choice.

G701LE · 10-30-2017, 02:36 PM

Then, if I didn't prime it right, why would oil have been leaking out of the "oil out" fitting on the head unit? Which, yes, I did bust the fitting in half....

SynergyGreenSS · 10-30-2017, 02:49 PM

G701LE, just out of curiosity, why haven't you decided to take the replacement yet?

Silver14 · 10-30-2017, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G701LE

Then, if I didn't prime it right, why would oil have been leaking out of the "oil out" fitting on the head unit? Which, yes, I did bust the fitting in half....

Was oil circulating through the oil canister, or just leaking? Did you pressurize it with compressed air?

G701LE · 10-30-2017, 03:41 PM

The only leak was at the supercharger head unit. From the "out" fitting. Which was quickly discovered. Then didn't run it until it was fixed. My question is. If I didn't prime it right, how was there oil in the head unit and leaking from the "out" banjo bolt? You can't really see if the oil is circulating in the canister. So I just assumed it was circulating due to oil leaking out of the "out" banjo bolt....
And during the short break in, I added oil 3 different times. Again, pointing to it circulating.

DuskssJP · 10-31-2017, 08:46 AM

I reread everything and I do agree, the instructions from Kraftwerks DID NOT ever mention anything about priming.

At first I thought the deal from Moddiction was to go halves with you but now see they and Kraftwerks are offering the replacement and all they are asking is to have it professionally installed which makes sense. It seems like an easy decision. I get the cost of install which is why you did it on your own. But like others have said, you could just resell as worst case scenario.

If I were in your shoes, it's what I would do.

Silver14 · 10-31-2017, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G701LE

If I didn't prime it right, how was there oil in the head unit and leaking from the "out" banjo bolt?

I'm assuming it needs to be primed with pressurized air to force the oil through the whole system and force any air pockets out. If not, my guess is the head unit only received a little oil then got damaged.

Silver14 · 10-31-2017, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuskssJP

I reread everything and I do agree, the instructions from Kraftwerks DID NOT ever mention anything about priming.

The instructions for the Rotrex unit cover it in detail.

Gunmetal Speedster · 11-01-2017, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver14

The instructions for the Rotrex unit cover it in detail.

Unless they are labeled install book 1 and 2, it's silly to have two separate books. Only adds to the confusion and risk factor. I suppose it's a classic example of you get what you pay for though.

10-29-2017, 02:40 AM	#239
Splat Drives: 2012 1SS M6 IOM Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Rochelle New York Posts: 1,428 View My Garage	Took awhile, but I read all 17 pages...... and what I cant understand is, why aren't you taking the offer from Moddiction!!! I can truly understand your situation OP, and I'm really on your side..... don't agree on some things, but I'm on your side.........but God Dam, take the offer and then resell. __________________ 2012 1SS Camaro LS3 Inferno Orange Mods: LSA Supercharger, 2.55 Pulley, Custom Boost Cam, ARH LTH 1 7/8, HFC, 3' Magnaflow Exhaust, JLT CAI, Elite CC V2, BO White Stage 2 TB, GM 3.91 Gears, DSS CF Driveshaft, BMR Bushing Kit.... . Tuned by JTM Motorsports 540 Hp 550Tq on 9PSI Axles, Monster Clutch, Hotchkis TVS Track Pack kit.......For 2018.

10-29-2017, 12:00 PM	#240
G701LE Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 IBM silver stipes Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: K.C. Kansas Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	I am not signing anything saying I give up my rights to warranty. Due to this head unit not pumping oil.... Otherwise, I would have been all over it! I don't have the money to take that big of a hit for something, I feel, wasn't my fault. __________________ 2010 Imperial Blue w/ Silver stripes 2SS/RS L99 Mods = Not enough....

10-30-2017, 10:46 AM	#242
G701LE Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 IBM silver stipes Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: K.C. Kansas Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	I just read your comment on my CC chargeback. Why do you keep mentioning the banjo bolt??? There was NO METAL IN THE UNIT!!!! I broke it with one hand, that is how easy they are to snap. So, let's put that aside. It was a mistake, but not a problem. So now to the oil not pumping. Let's pretend that I did get another head unit and the same problem happened? Warranty or no warranty, I know how this all plays out! I truly am sorry there isn't a better way to go about this. I have nothing against you Moddiction. This just a lot of money for a poor boy. Believe me, I would have rather gone after Kraftwerks or Rotrex. But.........that is not where I purchased it. FWIW. In the end of this ordeal. It was real confusing on who to listen to. The very first time I had a question I came to you. What did you do? Push me off to Kraftwerks facebook page. I truly am sorry you have to take the brunt of this....... __________________ 2010 Imperial Blue w/ Silver stripes 2SS/RS L99 Mods = Not enough....

10-30-2017, 12:43 PM	#244
Taylortoons Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 482	G701LE, your best offer is on the table. Moddiction, I wouldn't debate any longer. If he cancels the chargeback, hold up your end of the deal. If not, he made the choice. __________________ GPI Built Procharger D-1/13 PSI/Race Intercooler/SS3 Cam Kit/Kooks LTH/X- pipe/FIC 1050/E85/3.91 gears/Centerforce Dual Disc clutch/Flowmaster Outlaw/775whp/680tqSOLD

10-30-2017, 02:36 PM	#245
G701LE Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 IBM silver stipes Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: K.C. Kansas Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	Then, if I didn't prime it right, why would oil have been leaking out of the "oil out" fitting on the head unit? Which, yes, I did bust the fitting in half.... __________________ 2010 Imperial Blue w/ Silver stripes 2SS/RS L99 Mods = Not enough....

10-29-2017, 01:52 PM	#241
Moddiction Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 113	You give up rights for warranty if not professionally installed. I know you still don’t think you did anything wrong with install but all signs point to the fact it was installation error. Because of this we’re not sending a free replacement supercharger just to possibly have it seize again.

10-30-2017, 11:18 AM	#243
Moddiction Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 113	The blower was never primed you said. Which is why it seized. It has to be primed as per the instructions that come with the supercharger which it seems you must have missed. Every other kit out there has had no issues with oil pumping through it. Just has to be primed as per instructions. I will still honor the replacement blower if chargeback is cancelled for another few days. If it goes the whole length and we win chargeback(all signs point to we will) there will no longer be a replacement offer on the table. You would have to buy another blower at full cost or sell the kit without a blower on the used market. A free replacement blower is as generous of an offer as possible. I'm splitting costs with Kraftwerks on it and that's just money out of our pockets even though the fault has been shown to be user error.

10-30-2017, 02:49 PM	#246
SynergyGreenSS Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 1,333	G701LE, just out of curiosity, why haven't you decided to take the replacement yet? __________________ 2011 SS L99 LSA Supercharger, BTR Stage 3 PDS Cam, Yank 3200SS, Weapon X Stage 2 intake, LSA Heads, Flex Fuel, Ported throttle body, Speed Engineering Headers, NOWEEDS, ZL1 fuel pump, DSX AUX Pump, ID-1050X injectors, 3” pipe to NPP mufflers, 3.91 gears

10-30-2017, 03:41 PM	#248
G701LE Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 IBM silver stipes Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: K.C. Kansas Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	The only leak was at the supercharger head unit. From the "out" fitting. Which was quickly discovered. Then didn't run it until it was fixed. My question is. If I didn't prime it right, how was there oil in the head unit and leaking from the "out" banjo bolt? You can't really see if the oil is circulating in the canister. So I just assumed it was circulating due to oil leaking out of the "out" banjo bolt.... And during the short break in, I added oil 3 different times. Again, pointing to it circulating. __________________ 2010 Imperial Blue w/ Silver stripes 2SS/RS L99 Mods = Not enough....

10-31-2017, 08:46 AM	#249
DuskssJP Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Dusk Edition Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 54 View My Garage	I reread everything and I do agree, the instructions from Kraftwerks DID NOT ever mention anything about priming. At first I thought the deal from Moddiction was to go halves with you but now see they and Kraftwerks are offering the replacement and all they are asking is to have it professionally installed which makes sense. It seems like an easy decision. I get the cost of install which is why you did it on your own. But like others have said, you could just resell as worst case scenario. If I were in your shoes, it's what I would do. __________________ 2013 2SS/RS Dusk Edition BBK long tubes w/ Hi-Flo cats, NPP Exhaust, Bilstein shocks & struts, Eibach Pro lowering springs, R1 Concept Eline Cross Drilled & Slotted Rotors, Kraftwerks Supercharger-Rotrex C38-92 Head Unit, ZL1 Fuel Pump, ADM FPCM, 75mm Pulley, E85, custom tune and more to come....