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Old 08-10-2023, 12:45 PM   #29
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Hard to say "no one wants that crap" when Tesla is the #1 selling vehicle in the US. LOL
Where are you getting this from?
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Old 08-10-2023, 12:49 PM   #30
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Maybe the VSS-R chassis can also support ice? I think most would accept an EV Camaro that had optional ICE. There is a next gen v8 coming for the trucks.
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Old 08-10-2023, 12:54 PM   #31
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Instead of a coupe, the next Gen of EV Camaros should just be an EV line of industrial garbage trucks. gm could lead the way, and beat Tesla to an untapped EV market.
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Old 08-10-2023, 12:56 PM   #32
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Maybe the VSS-R chassis can also support ice? I think most would accept an EV Camaro that had optional ICE. There is a next gen v8 coming for the trucks.
I would have absolutely no problem with GM if they offered an EV Camaro so long as there's an internal combustion, 4 cycle gasoline burning 8 cylinder engine and a true 3 pedal manual transmission somewhere on the spec list of options.

I'd even be willing to pay MORE to get them. As in, go ahead and make the EV standard and if you want a V8 that's $5,000 and if you want a manual that's another $2500.

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I'll pay you for the friggin CAFE fine, just gimme the damn V8 stick!
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Old 08-10-2023, 01:08 PM   #33
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They are not going to make a coupe. If they remake it will be a 4 door camaro styled EV, like the chevy version of the ct4.
The whole allure of this car is the V8. Even if you couldn't afford the V8, it was something aspirational. And if you had the V8, there was the ZL1.
If you're shopping for an electric car, you're looking for an appliance. That's not the history of the Camaro, and that's not a Camaro buyer. GM knows this, so they will water down the nameplate to something mass market.
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Old 08-10-2023, 01:09 PM   #34
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They are not going to make a coupe. If they remake it will be a 4 door camaro styled EV, like the chevy version of the ct4.
The whole allure of this car is the V8. Even if you couldn't afford the V8, it was something aspirational. And if you had the V8, there was the ZL1.
If you're shopping for an electric car, you're looking for an appliance. That's not the history of the Camaro.
They already did, it's call the Blazer.
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Old 08-10-2023, 01:27 PM   #35
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Hard to say "no one wants that crap" when Tesla is the #1 selling vehicle in the US. LOL
Also, If the US disappeared tomorrow, the rest of the world would still be going EV...
Just a thought. Having said that, Looking for my next Camaro.. A ZL1...:-)
No It's not...
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Old 08-10-2023, 01:40 PM   #36
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Yep, their best seller is #4, its sales figure is just a sliver over the Toyota in place #5 and is only "estimated", so its position isn't yet a fact.

That said, saying "no one wants them" is too low and easy a ball to attack, there is way more nuance to this.

For starters, Tesla has a cult of followers who will buy and "guerrilla market" their vehicles almost no matter what the manufacturer does (though if Musk keeps on putting more distance between him and the woke mob, the tables may turn), even the Roadster debacle is automatically forgiven—Tesla did carve out a niche with a well defined and placed product, and is still growing as a result.

At the same time, predictably, there is no non-Tesla EV in this top 25 chart, so "no one wants them" does hold water, just not one carrying the Tesla brand.
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Old 08-10-2023, 02:08 PM   #37
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Yep, their best seller is #4, its sales figure is just a sliver over the Toyota in place #5 and is only "estimated", so its position isn't yet a fact.

That said, saying "no one wants them" is too low and easy a ball to attack, there is way more nuance to this.

For starters, Tesla has a cult of followers who will buy and "guerrilla market" their vehicles almost no matter what the manufacturer does (though if Musk keeps on putting more distance between him and the woke mob, the tables may turn), even the Roadster debacle is automatically forgiven—Tesla did carve out a niche with a well defined and placed product, and is still growing as a result.

At the same time, predictably, there is no non-Tesla EV in this top 25 chart, so "no one wants them" does hold water, just not one carrying the Tesla brand.
Agreed... I wouldn't say nobody wants and EV. (And I haven't) I know people want them. I generally try to stay out of EV discussions because they are just to polarizing for me. My take on EV's is they will fill a niche market and that's all they will ever do. Just my $.02. I think depending on where you live, you see that differently. I rarely ever see EV's around here.
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Old 08-10-2023, 02:14 PM   #38
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GM should let the Camaro name die in peace. It should never be associated with an EV. It would be an insult to all of the great ICE Camaros. GM should find a new name.


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I agree. Let the nameplate live on in it's true legacy.


Won’t happen. To big of a name to not capitalize on the marketing…


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Old 08-10-2023, 02:19 PM   #39
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This is exactly why GM is doing it. Still BS if you ask me. Look at the Mustang "Mach E" or the new Chevy Blazer, just to name a couple. Neither of those are true representations of those names.
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Old 08-10-2023, 02:20 PM   #40
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Won’t happen. To big of a name to not capitalize on the marketing…
I tend to agree... The only thing that makes me think they may not is because GM already has a EV "Crossover" Camaro. It's called the Blazer. What would GM do with an EV Blazer (Camaro Design) and another EV Crossover with the Camaro badge on it. The only thing that would make sense to me is that they do build a 7th Gen EV Camaro (Car not Crossover) or just let the name die.
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Old 08-10-2023, 04:32 PM   #41
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I tend to agree... The only thing that makes me think they may not is because GM already has a EV "Crossover" Camaro. It's called the Blazer. What would GM do with an EV Blazer (Camaro Design) and another EV Crossover with the Camaro badge on it. The only thing that would make sense to me is that they do build a 7th Gen EV Camaro (Car not Crossover) or just let the name die.

Or. . . worst case scenario, "Camaro" takes over for the trim level of the highest performance Blazer EV.
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Old 08-10-2023, 06:11 PM   #42
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Agreed. I've been saying since the first hints that Queen Mary reassigned Mark Reuss from Corvette/Camaro team development to the new electric development team that this was gonna happen, and I'd rather the Camaro name die completely than go on anything that doesn't make noise and at least give you the option to row your own gears.

Don Yenko is rolling in his grave right now with what's going on with the Camaro nameplate.
First, Mark Reuss is President of General Motors,

Second, Tadge Juechter is Executive Chief Engineer for Corvette and has not been reassigned.

Third, you probably meant Al Oppenheimer who WAS Chief Engineer on Camaro and took the opportunity to lead the GMC Hummer program. Your assumption that he was reassigned by Mary is likely false. As a career opportunity, it was very likely something he sought for himself.
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