[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by savage99ss

I guess bc original 1LE cars were an added package to the Z28 cars during the 3rd gen. True 1LE cars had all power items removed and ac deleted plus upgraded performance goodies.

The Z28s is the 3rd and 4th gens were just V8 cars. They were no more track capable than any other Camaro. That’s why they had to make the 1LE package. The Z/28 cars are track focused and don’t need more focus.

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

I think it would work very well , kinda like the GT 350 and GT 350R Just much better . 1Le option has always been the icing on the cake .

The base GT350 was never intended to be a track car. It was a street car that posed as a track car, which is why it didn’t even come with the coolers needed to run on a track.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The Z28s is the 3rd and 4th gens were just V8 cars. They were no more track capable than any other Camaro. That’s why they had to make the 1LE package. The Z/28 cars are track focused and don’t need more focus.



The base GT350 was never intended to be a track car. It was a street car that posed as a track car, which is why it didn’t even come with the coolers needed to run on a track.

There are a lot of Z28 fans that would be very happy with a lesser track version of a Z28 .

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

There are a lot of Z28 fans that would be very happy with a lesser track version of a Z28 .

And there would be a lot of Z/28 fans upset to see the badge get watered down again, especially with the 1LE being so capable.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

And there would be a lot of Z/28 fans upset to see the badge get watered down again, especially with the 1LE being so capable.

It would never be that watered down , they could build a more then capable car that would please most drivers . Then top it with the 1Le option that would take to another level . It works with the Zl1 perfectly and by itself is very capable car and no reason it wouldn't work with the Z28. You will always have those fans ...

[savage99ss]

3rd and 4th gen z28s were more than capable for the time period. The most current z28 didn’t sell to well. From a $$$ standpoint, it makes more sense to slot the z28 where the 1le is. Sell more and get a historic name back out. Plus the 1le is an add on package like ws6 package. It has good history the poster above state, the 1le works great w the zl1

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The Z28s is the 3rd and 4th gens were just V8 cars. They were no more track capable than any other Camaro. That’s why they had to make the 1LE package. The Z/28 cars are track focused and don’t need more focus.



The base GT350 was never intended to be a track car. It was a street car that posed as a track car, which is why it didn’t even come with the coolers needed to run on a track.

The Iroc-Z was pretty capable in it's day. I had one (1985) but it said Z-28 on the car. It was the California (1C5) model.

For 1985, Chevrolet introduced the IROC-Z version that was named after the International Race of Champions. Offered as an option package on the Z28, the Camaro IROC-Z featured an upgraded suspension, lowered ride height, specially valved Delco-Bilstein shocks, larger diameter sway bars, a steering/frame brace known as the "wonder bar", a special decal package, and an optional Tuned Port Injection system taken from the Chevrolet Corvette. It also shared the Corvette's Goodyear "Gatorback" unidirectional tires in a 245/50/VR16 size vs. the Corvette's 255/50/VR16 size, and received unique new aluminum 5-spoke 16 by 8 inch wheels. The new wheels were designed with different offsets front and rear, resulting in the words "Front" or "Rear" cast into the wheels to distinguish which wheel went where.

The Camaro IROC-Z was on Car and Driver magazine's Ten Best list for 1985. The 305 c.i. 5.0-liter TPI LB9 was rated at 215 hp (160 kW), with the 4-bbl 305 LG4 at 155 hp, and the 4-bbl High Output 305 L69 at 190 hp (142 kW). A total of 2,497 L69 IROC-Z models were made for 1985. The LB9 was available only on the Z28 and the IROC-Z model with the TH700-R4 automatic transmission. A total of 205 IROC-Zs equipped with the LB9 305 with the G92 (Performance Axle Ratio) option were made in 1985. The G92 option upgraded the rear axle gear ratio from 3.23 to 3.42.

Also new for 1985, all Camaros featured refreshed noses, and new deeper valances and front spoiler for the Z28 and the newly introduced IROC-Z. The speedometers no longer had the unique double-pointed needle that simultaneously read mph and km/h: they were replaced by conventional single-pointer 85 mph (137 km/h) units.

For 1985 a (1C5) RPO California IROC-Z was also made, Chevrolet's California Marketing Group came up with the idea and it was for sale in California only. A total of 250 black and 250 red examples were produced. They were all equipped with the 5.0 TPI LB9 engine and TH700-R4 automatic transmission. All came equipped with the IROC-Z fog lights, wheels and ground effects, but with the base Camaro's hood (no louvers), rear decklid (no spoiler), and no exterior decals.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by savage99ss

3rd and 4th gen z28s were more than capable for the time period. The most current z28 didn’t sell to well. From a $$$ standpoint, it makes more sense to slot the z28 where the 1le is. Sell more and get a historic name back out. Plus the 1le is an add on package like ws6 package. It has good history the poster above state, the 1le works great w the zl1

They were capable when comparing it to a mustang ,which is not saying much .When you compare those generations to BMW, porsche and ferrari they didn't fair as well . Although in a 1993 motor trend comparison of the Z28 VS mustang cobra the Z28 60-0 stopping distance was 112 feet with ABS, that was really good,Cobra was 144 feet non ABS . In the final analysis the Z28 won acceleration,top speed,braking and handling. Cobra won passenger comfort and utility . In 1993 there were 119,328 mustangs sold and 39,103 camaros sold,,,Some things never change.

[savage99ss]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

They were capable when comparing it to a mustang ,which is not saying much .When you compare those generations to BMW, porsche and ferrari they didn't fair as well . Although in a 1993 motor trend comparison of the Z28 VS mustang cobra the Z28 60-0 stopping distance was 112 feet with ABS, that was really good,Cobra was 144 feet non ABS . In the final analysis the Z28 won acceleration,top speed,braking and handling. Cobra won passenger comfort and utility . In 1993 there were 119,328 mustangs sold and 39,103 camaros sold,,,Some things never change.

Check the 0-60 and track times for the 1995 Porsche 911-993. It’s closer to the z28s time than you may think.

[AMINEAT]

But is there any actual evidence that a Z/28 is coming? Things like press releases, comments by GM officials, sightings? Tutuapp 9Apps ShowBox

[shaffe]

Nope, nada.

GM really pigeon holed themselves with the 5th gen car being as good as it was. Now I fear most people would expect it to be the most track capable Camaro, so that means needs to be better than the ZLE. But then you also had GM who went full nostalgia and said the heart of a Z/28 is a NA engine. So I don't see any NA power plant helping a Z/28 best the ZLE

Maybe the rumored 5.5 FPC from the upcoming Z06 could but that is still just rumors

[LateBrakeU2]

Originally Posted by AMINEAT

But is there any actual evidence that a Z/28 is coming? Things like press releases, comments by GM officials, sightings? Tutuapp 9Apps ShowBox

Consider the post before yours was made 20 months ago as an answer.

[Bluecyclone]

Doh.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Nope, nada.

GM really pigeon holed themselves with the 5th gen car being as good as it was. Now I fear most people would expect it to be the most track capable Camaro, so that means needs to be better than the ZLE. But then you also had GM who went full nostalgia and said the heart of a Z/28 is a NA engine. So I don't see any NA power plant helping a Z/28 best the ZLE

Maybe the rumored 5.5 FPC from the upcoming Z06 could but that is still just rumors

I don’t think they pigeon holed themselves. Porsche still builds the GT3RS, even though they have the GT2RS.

GM won’t develop Camaro specific engines. Corvette has abandoned the Z06 and Grand Sport history and turned them into rolling Lazy Boy chairs. There will never be another performance n/a engine for a Z/28. We should all be thankful for the 5th gen car.

[Lazerbrainz2k3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Corvette has abandoned the Z06 and Grand Sport history and turned them into rolling Lazy Boy chairs. There will never be another performance n/a engine for a Z/28. We should all be thankful for the 5th gen car.

Whatever fungi you're licking, you got a bad batch - you're talking some especially weird nonsense there.