[Motor Fast]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Z OH 6 is absolutely correct. The 6th Gen chassis is far superior to the 5th gen. However, to get some of that stiffness, you lose a functional back seat. Not that the 5th gen had a lot of back seat room to begin with but the 6th gen's back seat is pretty much useless for anyone taller than 5' 2''.

The interior quality of the 6th gen is also far superior to the 5th gen. It still has a lot of plastic but it's better put together. I never could understand why people complained about the 5th gen's interior being cheap plastic. After owning a 6th gen, I now understand.

Agreed. I wasn't really a fan of the Camaros when they came back out. The fifth generation looks very large and there are many other things I do not like about it. When the sixth generation came out I still wasn't a big fan but the lines help give it a smaller look. It wasn't until I started getting the sixth generation SS's as rentals did I come around. The RECARO seats really help out the interior look too plus they are really good seats. The 1LE's have a really nice handling package too.

[Bigtime53]

Well I have read all of you guys responses and I do know the 6th gen cars are lighter and more hp. I think for me the A10 is the way I would go as I am old and do not like to shift gears [bad knees] anymore. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2013 ZL1 this morning that had 5034 miles on it but just could not do it until I check out the Gen 6 models better. I read someone's thread that he was going to wait until he see's what chevy is going to offer on the last year camaro powertrain wise. I have read also that the thinking is the Z06 motor which I believe they said 670hp? but that is not enough increase horsepower wise to wait for it I think. Anyway thanks for all the feedback and I am going to start looking now for a 6th gen.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Bigtime53

Well I have read all of you guys responses and I do know the 6th gen cars are lighter and more hp. I think for me the A10 is the way I would go as I am old and do not like to shift gears [bad knees] anymore. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2013 ZL1 this morning that had 5034 miles on it but just could not do it until I check out the Gen 6 models better. I read someone's thread that he was going to wait until he see's what chevy is going to offer on the last year camaro powertrain wise. I have read also that the thinking is the Z06 motor which I believe they said 670hp? but that is not enough increase horsepower wise to wait for it I think. Anyway thanks for all the feedback and I am going to start looking now for a 6th gen.

Test drive one and you'll be sold. You can thank me (and everyone else who encouraged you here) later

[s346k]

if all you want is 5g ZL1 performance, buy yourself a 6g ss car.

[hawk02]

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting on the LT6 to make it in the ZL1 for its last year of production. Those engines will be hand built and GM will have its hands full just keeping up with Z06 demand. Besides, it’s not a smart business move for GM to spend the money and resources to recalibrate the ZL1 for a different engine knowing it will only be in production one more year.

If anything, the ZL1 might get the LT4 bump of the CT5-V Blackwing. But I even think the chances of that are zero to none.

[Evansa22]

I've owned a 14ss, 16ss and now 18 zle. Drive a sixth gen and you will understand. Big step up all around and addressed the interior issues i had with the fifth gen

[BlaqWhole]

Here is a story that not many people know and even fewer will tell you:

Some years ago, perhaps back in 2012, GM discovered time travel. Yes, they literally discovered how to look forward into the future to see events and where the world would be. It was also around that time that they discovered alien technology. So they glanced and found out that around 2024 there would be a change and ICEvs would start to disappear as the world starts to switch to EVs. So armed with that info, GM decided that they were going to make the 6th Gen Camaro the epitome of all things Pony Car as their final Gen and as a farewell to the current power source.

With the goal to be to make the ultimate vehicle ever, they partnered with God and used the alien tech to build the current Gen Camaro. There were some hiccups along the way but they succeeded. They built the best car in the history of the automobile. It was the SS. Not being satisfied, GM then struck a deal with the Devil himself who went right to work designing what we all know to be the LT4 engine and the A10 trans. Using a combination of sourcery, the Force, alien tech, future tech, and a little bit of good luck, they created the ZL1.

So the ZL1 showed up and destroyed everything in it's path leaving nothing but the ashes and remains of Hellcats and Mustangs and GTRs and anything else NOT made by GM and costing under 6 figures. The SS likewise destroyed it's competition leaving names like "Shelby GT350R" and "BOSS 302" broken and cowering in the corner. And oh did the competition try. There were names like "Redeye" and "GT500" and "Mach1" and "PP2" and others that tried. But none could compare. It was like as if the competition was up against a combination of Goku, Baki, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Darth Vader, Thor, Levi, Rocky Balboa, Bruce effing Lee, Escanor, Mike Tyson, and every other complete badass in history all rolled into one.

So after beating all the competition into submission, the end of ICEvs came and the 6th Gen Camaro walked away as the undisputed champion of all things car related ever. The end.

So get the 6th Gen and get the ZL1 or the SS. You won't be disappointed. Nobody ever in the whole world ever walked away from a ZL1 thinking "man this isn't the best car ever".

True story.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Here is a story that not many people know and even fewer will tell you:

Some years ago, perhaps back in 2012, GM discovered time travel. Yes, they literally discovered how to look forward into the future to see events and where the world would be. It was also around that time that they discovered alien technology. So they glanced and found out that around 2024 there would be a change and ICEvs would start to disappear as the world starts to switch to EVs. So armed with that info, GM decided that they were going to make the 6th Gen Camaro the epitome of all things Pony Car as their final Gen and as a farewell to the current power source.

With the goal to be to make the ultimate vehicle ever, they partnered with God and used the alien tech to build the current Gen Camaro. There were some hiccups along the way but they succeeded. They built the best car in the history of the automobile. It was the SS. Not being satisfied, GM then struck a deal with the Devil himself who went right to work designing what we all know to be the LT4 engine and the A10 trans. Using a combination of sourcery, the Force, alien tech, future tech, and a little bit of good luck, they created the ZL1.

So the ZL1 showed up and destroyed everything in it's path leaving nothing but the ashes and remains of Hellcats and Mustangs and GTRs and anything else NOT made by GM and costing under 6 figures. The SS likewise destroyed it's competition leaving names like "Shelby GT350R" and "BOSS 302" broken and cowering in the corner. And oh did the competition try. There were names like "Redeye" and "GT500" and "Mach1" and "PP2" and others that tried. But none could compare. It was like as if the competition was up against a combination of Goku, Baki, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Darth Vader, Thor, Levi, Rocky Balboa, Bruce effing Lee, Escanor, Mike Tyson, and every other complete badass in history all rolled into one.

So after beating all the competition into submission, the end of ICEvs came and the 6th Gen Camaro walked away as the undisputed champion of all things car related ever. The end.

So get the 6th Gen and get the ZL1 or the SS. You won't be disappointed. Nobody ever in the whole world ever walked away from a ZL1 thinking "man this isn't the best car ever".

True story.

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[DangerZL1]

I took the red pill this evening and put an order in for a 22 ZL1 today. Already have an order number. I had a 12 ZL1 and there’s no way I’d go back to the A6. Im looking forward to the A10.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

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Please do NOT encourage me, lol!! I'm drinking.

[Bigtime53]

Originally Posted by s346k

if all you want is 5g ZL1 performance, buy yourself a 6g ss car.

I did not say I wanted a 5th gen that is why I am here asking about the 6th gen cars. I did drive a 17 when they came out but it was a used car with 20k on the miles and someone had drove the piss out of it. It was not what I was expecting. I really think something was not right with the car. It did not drive right and very noisey inside and something in the drive train was popping when you stopped and started again. Like I say it had been abused so I passed on it. But I am looking for one as I type this and I have found one 200 miles from me so maybe I will be getting it soon. Thanks for everyone's advice here.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Bigtime53

I did not say I wanted a 5th gen that is why I am here asking about the 6th gen cars. I did drive a 17 when they came out but it was a used car with 20k on the miles and someone had drove the piss out of it. It was not what I was expecting. I really think something was not right with the car. It did not drive right and very noisey inside and something in the drive train was popping when you stopped and started again. Like I say it had been abused so I passed on it. But I am looking for one as I type this and I have found one 200 miles from me so maybe I will be getting it soon. Thanks for everyone's advice here.

What he meant was that if you want (or will be satisfied with) the performance of a 5th Gen ZL1 then the 6th Gen SS will be good enough. The 6th Gen SS has either matched or outperformed the 5th ZL1 in just about every performance category.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Bigtime53

I did not say I wanted a 5th gen that is why I am here asking about the 6th gen cars. I did drive a 17 when they came out but it was a used car with 20k on the miles and someone had drove the piss out of it. It was not what I was expecting. I really think something was not right with the car. It did not drive right and very noisey inside and something in the drive train was popping when you stopped and started again. Like I say it had been abused so I passed on it. But I am looking for one as I type this and I have found one 200 miles from me so maybe I will be getting it soon. Thanks for everyone's advice here.

Try again a new or a used, but non-abused ZL1, or heck, even a 2SS or 2SS 1LE, you'll be amazed.

[LT4Greg]

Go with the 6gen ZL1 and I really think you will be impressed and have no regrets!��