09-20-2021, 02:40 PM | #1 |
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How many Bar Sensor?
Question...how many bar sensor does our ZL1 use and when the car is modded with a 2650 and cam, is it changed?
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09-20-2021, 06:46 PM | #2 |
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Stock is a 4 bar TMAP, no need to change from the perspective of pressure measurement limits.
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09-20-2021, 06:53 PM | #3 |
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Ok, thanks..I was curious cause of tuning the VE. Didn't realize it went that high
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
09-20-2021, 08:04 PM | #4 |
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Yeah, not sure why they went 4 bar... I actually considered going to 3 bar map to get better resolution in SD tuning but never got around to it.
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09-20-2021, 08:13 PM | #5 |
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By chance do you remember where the setting is to select what bar it is? Been a long while since I looked at that setting. Just want to verify it's correct.
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
09-20-2021, 08:20 PM | #6 |
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Engine\Airflow\General\MAP (this is just info more or less about the expected values on car)
Max = 180 kPa Min = 10 kPa Engine\Airflow\General\MAP Estimation (these are the important values for MAP, stock LT4 settings): MAP Sensor Linear = 425 kPa MAP Sensor Offset = -32.50 kPA The MAP sensor for example used on LS9/LSA is a 3 bar: MAP Sensor Linear = 312.5kPa MAP Sensor Offset = -11.25 kPA
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09-21-2021, 07:38 AM | #7 |
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thanks for the info!!
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09-21-2021, 08:50 AM | #8 |
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Isn't there also a place in either VVE or VT tables that you select how many bar you are running? I cannot seem to find it. I could be wrong though!
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
09-21-2021, 08:52 AM | #9 |
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Yes I was just going to post this. Click on the Map/Baro axis label(left side of the map) in VVE and you can select Bar 1-3 in the default drop down menu.
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09-21-2021, 09:12 AM | #10 | |
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Quote:
Also, have you tried logging using the FlowFactor pid?
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
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09-21-2021, 10:11 AM | #11 |
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If you are running more then 14.7psi boost then you need to use 3 bar. Just because the MAP is 4 bar doesn't mean you have to use 4 bar scale for tuning. 3 bar covers up to 29.7psi of boost.
No I haven't had a chance to try it.
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09-21-2021, 10:38 AM | #12 |
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ok, i tried but it i just get zeros. Not sure why it works on Goats Z06 but not a ZL1 with same motor
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
09-21-2021, 10:45 AM | #13 |
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The flow factor PID just reports zeros?
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09-21-2021, 10:48 AM | #14 |
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rewatch his video and u will see it show various numbers cause he even commented about 32%
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
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