[zipline]

Originally Posted by ZL1 1LE

Sure, if it ended up being a total slug. They built the hype with the 3 secs faster than... So, now it has to live up to that.

It looks as if the guys who are up on this track time stuff are hoping for a 7:15 ish Ring Time. The 3 seconds you mention would be game changing for a 1/4 mile ET but is hardly critical in this instance where it is a plus 7 minute event. 3 seconds in this range is a mere 7/10s of 1%. That would be well within the envelope of driver variation, atmospheric conditions, etc. and NOT statistically significant by any analysis of variance. However, nobody is ever going to be able to feel the difference between cars that may be less than 1% apart. Sorry but I really doubt if any of us are that good.

[TLSTWIN]

If you watch the video of the new Corvette he does you will see the rain and hail

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by zipline

It looks as if the guys who are up on this track time stuff are hoping for a 7:15 ish Ring Time. The 3 seconds you mention would be game changing for a 1/4 mile ET but is hardly critical in this instance where it is a plus 7 minute event. 3 seconds in this range is a mere 7/10s of 1%. That would be well within the envelope of driver variation, atmospheric conditions, etc. and NOT statistically significant by any analysis of variance. However, nobody is ever going to be able to feel the difference between cars that may be less than 1% apart. Sorry but I really doubt if any of us are that good.

3 seconds faster around Milford Road Course was the advertised improvement, which is a 2.9 mi. track...at that length, 3 seconds faster is ages.

On the Ring, that translates to somewhere around 12-16 seconds.

[KaBoom1701]

ok, what's up with all the caulk on the course?

I would think that would effect the grip of the tires at some point.....

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

ok, what's up with all the caulk on the course?

I would think that would effect the grip of the tires at some point.....

Most of it is paint. Fan-fed Graffiti to support a team/manufacturer, or memorial to someone who died...it's become something of a tradition/cult-following.

Of course...there was the 30' penis painted on the course in 2013....

[ZL1 1LE]

Originally Posted by zipline

It looks as if the guys who are up on this track time stuff are hoping for a 7:15 ish Ring Time. The 3 seconds you mention would be game changing for a 1/4 mile ET but is hardly critical in this instance where it is a plus 7 minute event. 3 seconds in this range is a mere 7/10s of 1%. That would be well within the envelope of driver variation, atmospheric conditions, etc. and NOT statistically significant by any analysis of variance. However, nobody is ever going to be able to feel the difference between cars that may be less than 1% apart. Sorry but I really doubt if any of us are that good.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...28&postcount=9

[1295/SS]

Originally Posted by zipline

It looks as if the guys who are up on this track time stuff are hoping for a 7:15 ish Ring Time. The 3 seconds you mention would be game changing for a 1/4 mile ET but is hardly critical in this instance where it is a plus 7 minute event. 3 seconds in this range is a mere 7/10s of 1%. That would be well within the envelope of driver variation, atmospheric conditions, etc. and NOT statistically significant by any analysis of variance. However, nobody is ever going to be able to feel the difference between cars that may be less than 1% apart. Sorry but I really doubt if any of us are that good.

3 seconds is significant regardless of how you interpret it.

[zipline]

Originally Posted by 1295/SS

3 seconds is significant regardless of how you interpret it.

Wrong.

3 seconds beyond 10 or 11 seconds is obviously huge. 3 seconds on top of over 7 minutes doesn't matter.

[mlee]

Team Camaro is doing work this week....

Hope we can get times in a "timely" manner this time around.

[crossroaddemons]

Originally Posted by zipline

Wrong.

3 seconds beyond 10 or 11 seconds is obviously huge. 3 seconds on top of over 7 minutes doesn't matter.

Stand by. I've got Al Oppenheiser on the other line.

Hi Al, 3 seconds doesn't matter bro! Ok, you're heading back from Germany now right? Cool. Sorry you guys wasted your time over there. Enjoy your flight. Peace out!

[Rusty35]

Originally Posted by zipline

Wrong.

3 seconds beyond 10 or 11 seconds is obviously huge. 3 seconds on top of over 7 minutes doesn't matter.

If you are 3 seconds behind the leader at the end of a 7 minute lap you are way behind.

[zipline]

Originally Posted by Rusty35

If you are 3 seconds behind the leader at the end of a 7 minute lap you are way behind.

Let me know exactly how that feels when you get back from the "Ring" and how much faster or slower your ZL1 feels on the street as result of this critical 3 second deficit. Ridiculous or are all you guys top flight professional drivers who will feel these differences that would be imperceptible to us mere mortals. As if less than 1% of a time difference is going to matter to any of us here. Laughable.

[90503]

Originally Posted by zipline

Is there anyone who would change their mind about a ZL1 purchase based on a reported "Ring Time"?

Originally Posted by zipline

It looks as if the guys who are up on this track time stuff are hoping for a 7:15 ish Ring Time. The 3 seconds you mention would be game changing for a 1/4 mile ET but is hardly critical in this instance where it is a plus 7 minute event. 3 seconds in this range is a mere 7/10s of 1%. That would be well within the envelope of driver variation, atmospheric conditions, etc. and NOT statistically significant by any analysis of variance. However, nobody is ever going to be able to feel the difference between cars that may be less than 1% apart. Sorry but I really doubt if any of us are that good.

Originally Posted by zipline

Wrong.

3 seconds beyond 10 or 11 seconds is obviously huge. 3 seconds on top of over 7 minutes doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by zipline

Let me know exactly how that feels when you get back from the "Ring" and how much faster or slower your ZL1 feels on the street as result of this critical 3 second deficit. Ridiculous or are all you guys top flight professional drivers who will feel these differences that would be imperceptible to us mere mortals. As if less than 1% of a time difference is going to matter to any of us here. Laughable.

Laughable, yes....to you that is. Dude, we get it that you're not a fan of the 'Ring or Ring times.....Most in here are and are curious about it. To many it is meaningful and of interest.

I don't see why you need to keep bashing it, or those who are interested in it.

Perhaps start your own thread poo-pooing Chevy using the Ring for purposes you don't understand or care about. Just a suggestion.

[hjdca]

The car is "signed" on the right side of the rear bumper... Could it be "number 1" or something like that ?