[cellsafemode]

what's the reason for the dropoff on the base pull at a lower rpm than the pull with the sc?

[Starbreaker1968]

Maybe some experts will add their thougths, They spent half a day or more tuning, had theri best guys on it. I and I don't know enough to speak on anything but I am defintely happy with all the extra HP, Jesus it pushes you back into your seat and says keep bringing it!!


I was only puzzled by the 309 stock rwhp when most say, even one of their guys said should be 270 ish with drive train loss.....Oh who knows. Do you have an answer to your own question?

[Street Lethal]

Originally Posted by Starbreaker1968

Maybe some experts will add their thougths, They spent half a day or more tuning, had theri best guys on it. I and I don't know enough to speak on anything but I am defintely happy with all the extra HP, Jesus it pushes you back into your seat and says keep bringing it!!

I was only puzzled by the 309 stock rwhp when most say, even one of their guys said should be 270 ish with drive train loss.....Oh who knows.

What dyno tuners will do... is they will push the limits of the timing until they start to see signs of knock while using a higher grade of octane, get the recorded dyno for the customer, then bring the timing back down when they deliver the car to keep it more conservative for everyday driving, because most tend to fill up with the cheap stuff. A lot of the remote tuners out there will avoid doing that remotely which might explain why the average seems a tad lower on a much grander scale. Either way, fantastic numbers.

- Rob

[Starbreaker1968]

Thanks that sounds reasonable why stock was tad high, you agree HP at crank is likely around 500 to 520 assuming drive train loss? They READ me riot act to always put 93 octane in or engine will be ruined, yeesh!



I need to try the included 0 to 60 timer though dont know how accurate it is. Chevy always stated 5.1 stock though most I seen from owners were bit more like 5.4 or so. You think it would be closer to 4.0 now, but same as above SS owners, usually tad higher.



Always look up about what rpm you should be at when you launch on with automatic to get best number.

[Choda]

Awesome, congrats on the power!

[HCI2000SS]

This setup is intercooled I presume?

[Starbreaker1968]

See pic on Page 2, yeah has own inter cooler. Product page...



https://www.procharger.com/automotiv...0-camaro-v6-36

[HCI2000SS]

Ok good deal. Some of these entry level low boost kits don't, and as a result they lose a ton of power from heat soak. They make okay dyno numbers, but nowhere near that in the real world

[asthmamax11]

Originally Posted by Starbreaker1968

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Awesome pics

[asthmamax11]

Geez u guys

Before and after #'s is something practically nobody gets these days.
Dummies just post their final #'s for bragging rights. They don't know any better.

Dyno is a tool

309 to 433 seems reasonable for this setup

[gtfoxy]

Gotta love the extra room the V6 offers under the hood.

Looks like you have a solid performer. Enjoy.

[Kairles]

"Stock" numbers seem legit. It had a trifecta tune and a CAI. Also it says it's a 5th gear pull. If it's an auto 5th isn't 1:1 ratio so it still "multiplying" torque slightly, so number will be a little higher. My car with basically a CAI made 303rwhp, 4th(M6 so not a 1:1 ratio) gear pull.

I've been eyeballing the Procharger kit for some time now. Just can't bring myself to pull the trigger because I live in California(not smog legal) and not sure I want to keep this car.

[Dustya]

Originally Posted by Starbreaker1968

Well got car back from the great folks to work with at WeaponX Motorsports. When I first brought it there, guy said I would guess atleast 100hp gain at rear wheels, kind of let down at first because on Procharger site it promises near 165 gains of rwhp.



After having on Mustang Dyno for half a day he text me and said pleasant surprise, got 433rwhp!!! So if 335 hp before with drive train loss it must have been around 270 or so that is roughly 163 more at the wheels, and 510 to 520 at the crank! No mods except removed terrible Trifecta tune.


I got several discounts so total was $4,999.00 for charger and about $2, 500.00 labor. I am 52 and not into racing, just wanted a bit more. My mistake was letting my 28 yr old son test drive it on highway. Was being good then he suddenly gunned it and went from around 70 to 127 in it feels like no time! He wont be driving it again. Haven't tried built in 0 to 60 timer yet but it still drives great and pushes ya back in your seat when you want it too. Wonder how it would do against a stock SS in quarter mile??

Thats awesome man I am truly glad you are enjoying your procharger setup!

The things people have said on here are 100% true although if there was any shop to take your HFV6 engine to other then overkill tuning it weaponx is a good choice since they have vast knowledge into the ats-v engine.

The numbers are a scaled a little bit off but you can still figure out your gains with math and remember the gains procharger is advertising is crank no whp.

You could go to 10 different dynos and get 10 completely different results but its nice you got a before and after so you know your gains are between 110-130rwhp from the kit. 433 rwhp is not possible without fuel modifications on these engines so we just know they have a happy dyno and nothing wrong with that at all.

Just because you are 52 doesnt mean you cant enjoy going to the racetrack there are more 45+ people at the tracks then 20 year olds its fun and something you can do to enjoy the potential of your care in a safe enviroment. You runs will tell you the true power of your car for sure.

Stay safe man and enjoy your ride!

[BOYD3800SII]

Originally Posted by Starbreaker1968

I don't have the dyno I accidently pitched it, could probably get, it but that is about all was on there. I got these numbers from what I text my son day after. I'm not a gear head and really don't know what program they used but had it on there several hours as per he said is about normal to get it right. Haven't tried 0 to 60 on car but imagine should be about a SS but doesn't have launch control which I don't know would make difference. Think it is lighter than a SS though but I did put 275 wider tires on back few yrs back.

Another quick question on the tune: Did they have to remove your TCM to tune the car or was it all done with the ECM only?