[MBSS1LE]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

What's all this crap about old Mach 1s having a solid axle? Didn't all Mustangs have solid axles until 2015??

Nope. 1999-2004 Mustang Cobras all had IRS.

[DaveC113]

Mach 1 is too expensive, C8 and ZL1 are way too close in price nevermind SLE being close in performance or even faster for a lot less money. Many here picked up SLEs for about $40k even, 2SS for ~$5k more...

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

Nope, that era Cobra had an IRS setup.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d-test-review/

Originally Posted by shaffe

What he said^

The 99, 01 and 03/04 Cobras had IRS

Originally Posted by MBSS1LE

Nope. 1999-2004 Mustang Cobras all had IRS.

Interesting, I never knew that. Someone update Mr. Whole with more proof that I'm not a Mustang fanboy that he was/is so convinced of

[Silveradoss573]

2000 Cobra R had IRS as well. It was also the first mustang with a six speed.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Interesting, I never knew that. Someone update Mr. Whole with more proof that I'm not a Mustang fanboy that he was/is so convinced of

You weren't alone, I thought the S550 was the intro for IRS too.

[seethruya]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Agreed. the Mach 1 is a decentI agree with Blaq, it shouldn't have been another handling car. The mach 1 historically has never been that. They should have tried to get the power over 500 and made it a boulevard bruiser.

I agree 100%. It should have been a GT but with a N/A version of the GT500 engine and transmission. The same concept as the 2003-2004 Mach 1 and 2003-2004 Cobra where the Mach 1 was truly unique to the GT. Unless you have to have a brand new car, I just don’t see any value in paying $10-20k more than a lightly used GT PP2. Also, I owned a 2016 GT with the MT82 and after 5 years, almost 100k miles of beating the hell out of the transmission, never had an issue with it. An aftermarket clutch does wonders with the overall driving experience.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

sam strano just got his mach 1 the other day interested to see what he says

Yes that would be interesting to see his comments on both his SS1LE & Mach 1

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

I built a Mach 1 Premium w/ the A10, handling package, Elite package, and Recaros to get it as close to comparable to my ZL1 as possible.

March 1 MSRP: $63,495
My '21 ZL1 MSRP: $68,935 (A10, CF hood insert, Nav, and CF shift knob includes gas guzzler tax)

I paid under msrp for my ZL1. I got $2k in rebates plus a dealer discount. So, for only a little more money, I got a car that will destroy the Mach 1 on a track and in a straight line.

I realize for some, that price will be worth it to have a Mach 1, but for very similar amounts of money a ZL1 will be a better performance buy.

Price-wise, a decked out Mach 1 w/ handling package isn't in the realm of SS 1LE price - it's in the ZL1 price bracket. Yikes (if you're Ford).

[kropscamaro16]

yea i looked at the prices last night gt , mach 1 , gt350 , gt500 and also hp


compare that to a ss , ss 1le , zl1 and zl1 1le and its wild!



haha good luck to ford tho always cool to battle against mustangs on track and most gt cars dont put up a good fight

[DaveC113]

Nevertheless, Ford will sell them and likely many of them with ADM.

I'd take a ZL1 or C8 over one anyday, or SLE and save a ton of cash.

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Nevertheless, Ford will sell them and likely many of them with ADM.

I'd take a ZL1 or C8 over one anyday, or SLE and save a ton of cash.

many of them with adm? whats that


and yea but wonder how many of them will actually see track time lol at least they come with 19s instead of 20s

[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

many of them with adm? whats that


and yea but wonder how many of them will actually see track time lol at least they come with 19s instead of 20s

Additional Dealer Markup.

It seems like 305/30/20 is super common now so maybe it'll help with getting prices down a bit. But yeah, it would be nice if at least the SLE came with the same 19s the ZLE comes with.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

I built a Mach 1 Premium w/ the A10, handling package, Elite package, and Recaros to get it as close to comparable to my ZL1 as possible.

March 1 MSRP: $63,495
My '21 ZL1 MSRP: $68,935 (A10, CF hood insert, Nav, and CF shift knob includes gas guzzler tax)

I paid under msrp for my ZL1. I got $2k in rebates plus a dealer discount. So, for only a little more money, I got a car that will destroy the Mach 1 on a track and in a straight line.

I realize for some, that price will be worth it to have a Mach 1, but for very similar amounts of money a ZL1 will be a better performance buy.

Price-wise, a decked out Mach 1 w/ handling package isn't in the realm of SS 1LE price - it's in the ZL1 price bracket. Yikes (if you're Ford).

That's absolutely insane. I just jumped onto B&P and loaded one up and it came out to 65K That's just absurd, asinine and stupid.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

I built a Mach 1 Premium w/ the A10, handling package, Elite package, and Recaros to get it as close to comparable to my ZL1 as possible.

March 1 MSRP: $63,495
My '21 ZL1 MSRP: $68,935 (A10, CF hood insert, Nav, and CF shift knob includes gas guzzler tax)

I paid under msrp for my ZL1. I got $2k in rebates plus a dealer discount. So, for only a little more money, I got a car that will destroy the Mach 1 on a track and in a straight line.

I realize for some, that price will be worth it to have a Mach 1, but for very similar amounts of money a ZL1 will be a better performance buy.

Price-wise, a decked out Mach 1 w/ handling package isn't in the realm of SS 1LE price - it's in the ZL1 price bracket. Yikes (if you're Ford).

They probably won't sell any of them. If that's even their goal.