FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 441

NW-99SS · 02-06-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

I think GMC did it better.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/06/...rucks-93vv7xy/

Agreed - that is the same as the failed Lincoln Blackwood tailgate from ~2002.

KMPrenger · 02-06-2019, 12:32 PM

I like both the GMC tailgate and the new RAM tailgate. I'd be happy with either. I can see advantages to both.

I have read that the RAM gate has a 2,000 lb capacity versus 395lb for the GMC....not sure if that's true or not. I'm wondering if GMC and RAM and using different metrics, like the 2,000 lb figure is when evenly distributed, while the GMC 395 lb figure is just a single point of contact on the bed? Who knows.

NW-99SS · 02-06-2019, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I like both the GMC tailgate and the new RAM tailgate. I'd be happy with either. I can see advantages to both.

I have read that the RAM gate has a 2,000 lb capacity versus 395lb for the GMC....not sure if that's true or not. I'm wondering if GMC and RAM and using different metrics, like the 2,000 lb figure is when evenly distributed, while the GMC 395 lb figure is just a single point of contact on the bed? Who knows.

The step on the GMC is rated for 375~395lbs of weight, the tailgate carries a very similar overall capacity to any other Ford or Ram tailgate.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-06-2019, 01:23 PM

I think the MultiPro gate looks just a bit better integrated. The 60/40 split of the Ram's is an OCD nightmare.

*DGthe3* · 02-06-2019, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I think the MultiPro gate looks just a bit better integrated. The 60/40 split of the Ram's is an OCD nightmare.

I didn't even notice that it wasn't 50-50. I did notice that the box on the Ram looks pretty narrow on the inside.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-06-2019, 01:59 PM

Has FCA integrated all of the bedsides into the RamBox storage bins?

NW-99SS · 02-06-2019, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I think the MultiPro gate looks just a bit better integrated. The 60/40 split of the Ram's is an OCD nightmare.

Agreed - Lincoln did it better!

rocket403 · 02-06-2019, 02:13 PM

I'm not OCD so I would take the new Ram for the win.

90503 · 02-06-2019, 02:29 PM

Tailgates seem a lot more elaborate, and likely very expensive to replace....Have they done anything to make them less likely to be stolen? A new design will likely have very limited availability for factory built replacements, thus creating a lucrative market for stolen tailgates as replacements....Hopefully they have made them more theft resistant somehow.

6spdhyperblue · 02-06-2019, 02:39 PM

They should all be locking with the doors by now. It’s a joke that since they ran a harness in there they didn’t add power locks

JerTM · 02-06-2019, 03:15 PM

My 2017 2500HD has a power locking tailgate. It makes an obnoxious "thunk" every time the doors are locked/unlocked. I'm happy just to have the slow lowering gate that mine does. I don't need a gimmick of a tail gate that turns into steps.

Bhobbs · 02-06-2019, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snizzle

Correct. I've been told it was due to the differentiation strategy, so Silverado suffers. Does not get the trick tailgate either.

I don’t care about the tailgate but the no 6.2 option doesn’t make any sense.

NW-99SS · 02-06-2019, 03:26 PM

These "fancy" tailgates are options...not standard except on the highest trim trucks.

Don't like them, get the regular tailgate.

My 17 Denali has the locking and "thunking" tailgate - works just fine and am quite happy with it. Better than obnoxious horns that let everyone know you just used your remote lock function.

*DGthe3* · 02-06-2019, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

These "fancy" tailgates are options...not standard except on the highest trim trucks.

Don't like them, get the regular tailgate.

My 17 Denali has the locking and "thunking" tailgate - works just fine and am quite happy with it. Better than obnoxious horns that let everyone know you just used your remote lock function.

I think you can normally change that to either flashing the headlights or nothing at all if you don't like it.

02-06-2019, 12:32 PM	#6162
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	I like both the GMC tailgate and the new RAM tailgate. I'd be happy with either. I can see advantages to both. I have read that the RAM gate has a 2,000 lb capacity versus 395lb for the GMC....not sure if that's true or not. I'm wondering if GMC and RAM and using different metrics, like the 2,000 lb figure is when evenly distributed, while the GMC 395 lb figure is just a single point of contact on the bed? Who knows. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!) Last edited by KMPrenger; 02-06-2019 at 12:43 PM.

02-06-2019, 01:23 PM	#6164
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	I think the MultiPro gate looks just a bit better integrated. The 60/40 split of the Ram's is an OCD nightmare. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

02-06-2019, 01:59 PM	#6166
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Has FCA integrated all of the bedsides into the RamBox storage bins? __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

02-06-2019, 02:39 PM	#6170
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,671	They should all be locking with the doors by now. It’s a joke that since they ran a harness in there they didn’t add power locks __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

02-06-2019, 03:26 PM	#6173
NW-99SS Drives: 1999 Camaro SS M6 - SBE LS1 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,166	These "fancy" tailgates are options...not standard except on the highest trim trucks. Don't like them, get the regular tailgate. My 17 Denali has the locking and "thunking" tailgate - works just fine and am quite happy with it. Better than obnoxious horns that let everyone know you just used your remote lock function. __________________ 1999 Camaro SS 6M - SBE LS1 1963 Corvette GrandSport - ZZ502 4M 2017 Denali 1500 6.2 2017 Yukon Denali 6.2

02-06-2019, 02:13 PM	#6168
rocket403 Drives: 80 Cutlass 403, 2010 FF RT Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 921	I'm not OCD so I would take the new Ram for the win.

02-06-2019, 02:29 PM	#6169
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,416	Tailgates seem a lot more elaborate, and likely very expensive to replace....Have they done anything to make them less likely to be stolen? A new design will likely have very limited availability for factory built replacements, thus creating a lucrative market for stolen tailgates as replacements....Hopefully they have made them more theft resistant somehow.

02-06-2019, 03:15 PM	#6171
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,941	My 2017 2500HD has a power locking tailgate. It makes an obnoxious "thunk" every time the doors are locked/unlocked. I'm happy just to have the slow lowering gate that mine does. I don't need a gimmick of a tail gate that turns into steps.

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