[G Fo12ce]

So I did a search and didn't see much on this topic except for a mention HERE. I plan to install a few items as soon as I drive the Camaro SS I just ordered home for the break in and onward. I'm going to get a Mishimoto catch can which I won't go into as there is a lot of info on here already.

I will preface these next ones by saying I know nothing is a substitute for frequent oil and filter changes. I had similar types of the following products on my last car and I still think it's good piece of mind for not that much $.

1. I want to get a neodymium magnetic oil drain plug/bolt. I've been told the OEM bolt on the Corvette is M12X1.75X25mm and I assume the Camaro is the same. Is that a safe assumption?

I read mention of these on a Corvette forum: PowerSlut Racing (yes that's the real name ) & DIMPLE/Drainplugmagnets.com. The latter people were saying is more expensive but engineered really well. Anyone have experience with these?

2. I also had an oil filter magnet by FilterMag, hopefully the one I had on my 370Z works but I have a feeling the Camaro's will be much larger. Drainplugmagnets.com has their own solution too.

They also have some complete kits for some cars and bikes like this one for the Hellcat that covers the trans, diff & engine oil, is there some GM software people have to see what the dimensions of these bolts are on our cars without ordering them or taking them off first?:


If you aren't aware of what are supposed to be the benefits here is what it says on their page:.

Motor oil works best by itself, uncontaminated
1. continuous friction creates unwanted tiny metal particle contamination
2. these tiny metal particles are measured in microns
3. a micron is one millionth of a meter
or: 25 microns =.001" / One thousand's of an inch is = to 25 microns!
4. all the contaminates cannot be removed by the oil filter
5. an oil filter can remove particles larger than 35 microns
6. dimple® products remove the rest
7. if not removed this contamination is circulated millions of times between each oil change, polishing (wearing) down the metal until the engine is worn out.
8. there is still residue left in the engine, even after an oil change
9. so new oil in the engine, does not mean, non contaminated oil

By the way if you are interested Drainplugs.com is in PALM COAST, FL. (between Jacksonville & Orlando). Maybe we can get them to make a kit.

[Glen e]

Oil drain bolt is M12 x 1.75 all camaros and vettes

[G Fo12ce]

Originally Posted by Glen e

Oil drain bolt is M12 x 1.75 all camaros and vettes

Thanks Glen. It's too bad you aren't near that place.

[Glen e]

A lotta guys like the filtermags, i just had a stack of mini iridium magnets In the shop that i spread around the filer...About $6 On AMZN.......

[G Fo12ce]

Originally Posted by Glen e

A lotta guys like the filtermags, i just had a stack of mini iridium magnets In the shop that i spread around the filer...About $6 On AMZN.......

On my day off I'll swing by the auto parts store and grab a filter for a Camaro and see if the one I have is the right diameter range. If not I guess I can sell it on the forums for my old car.

I'd like to find out what the bolt sizes are for the 8L90 A8 and diff are. I just noticed in the pic I linked above there's even a bolt for the oil cooler. I wonder if our cars have drain bolts on those?

[HyperBlue16]

FilterMAG SS Autos and Light Truck Series Magnets SS300PR fits perfectly on the filter.
Thou i see 2 things that concern me,
1) it gets close to the metal trans line, which i wonder if the magnetic field will cause particles in the trans line to build up and create a blockage over years of driving?
2) Can only stick one on, as little tight between the filter and engine and if you try to put between the filter and engine, could the magnetic field pull metal to build up in that area?

[thescreensavers]

5. an oil filter can remove particles larger than 35 microns

This is absolutely false

AMSOIL Ea Oil Filters provide 98.7 percent efficiency at 15µ and up to 70 percent efficiency at 7µ.

Most filters have 95%+ efficiency ratings at 20 microns. And any decent filter will filter down to 2microns albeit lower eff.

This magnet will only capture ferrous metals and there are plenty of non ferrous metals in the engine.

If you are truly worried about filtering look up "bypass oil filter" thouse will filter down to 1 microns or smaller



This magnet won't hurt anything but it's not very effective, remember all oil that is picked up by the pick up tube is filtered immediately after the pump then to the engine.

[G Fo12ce]

Originally Posted by HyperBlue16

FilterMAG SS Autos and Light Truck Series Magnets SS300PR fits perfectly on the filter.
Thou i see 2 things that concern me,
1) it gets close to the metal trans line, which i wonder if the magnetic field will cause particles in the trans line to build up and create a blockage over years of driving?
2) Can only stick one on, as little tight between the filter and engine and if you try to put between the filter and engine, could the magnetic field pull metal to build up in that area?

The one I have is FilterMAG RA 250, it fits 2.5 To 2.8 in. diameter filters. What diameter is the Camaro filter?

1: The magnet only pulls one way so if that line is on the back side of the magnet I don't see an issue right?

2: You only need 1 FilterMag. I'm not sure what you mean but it wraps around the filter and keeps the shavings stuck to the filters case. You throw the filter out on an oil change and put the FilterMag back on your new one so the shavings essentially go in the trash.

[G Fo12ce]

Originally Posted by thescreensavers

This is absolutely false



Most filters have 95%+ efficiency ratings at 20 microns. And any decent filter will filter down to 2microns albeit lower eff.

This magnet will only capture ferrous metals and there are plenty of non ferrous metals in the engine.

If you are truly worried about filtering look up "bypass oil filter" thouse will filter down to 1 microns or smaller



This magnet won't hurt anything but it's not very effective, remember all oil that is picked up by the pick up tube is filtered immediately after the pump then to the engine.

I appreciate your feed back and info on the filter. I'm aware that regularly scheduled oil and filter changes are important. I was using a good filter on my last car also. I don't think this is a catch all solution, I agree with you there. But for less than the cost of 1 oil change I personally think it's worth it. Especially during break in where there will be potentially some ferrous shavings in there that could be missed. There plenty of pics and posts of guys who use both products that have a measurable amount on there, so they do something.

[HyperBlue16]

Originally Posted by G Fo12ce

The one I have is FilterMAG RA 250, it fits 2.5 To 2.8 in. diameter filters. What diameter is the Camaro filter?

1: The magnet only pulls one way so if that line is on the back side of the magnet I don't see an issue right?

2: You only need 1 FilterMag. I'm not sure what you mean but it wraps around the filter and keeps the shavings stuck to the filters case. You throw the filter out on an oil change and put the FilterMag back on your new one so the shavings essentially go in the trash.

Umm, fairly sure magnets can pull both ways when attracting metal particles with the field they generate, but only pull or repel one way against other magnets poles.
So was mainly concerned for the magnetic field generating a little pull on the back side near other fluids with metal particles in the trans lines possibly floating in it and the oil within the engine near the filter(if a 2nd magnet was placed on it) I guess it is small chance, but just a concern.

You can double up for more coverage of the oil flowing thru on both sides of the filter.

About a 3" diameter oil filter case. Here is a pic with the spare magnet(says Filter Size Range: 2.900-3.400 in) and spare filter.

[G Fo12ce]

Originally Posted by HyperBlue16

Umm, fairly sure magnets can pull both ways when attracting metal particles with the field they generate, but only pull or repel one way against other magnets poles.
So was mainly concerned for the magnetic field generating a little pull on the back side near other fluids with metal particles in the trans lines possibly floating in it and the oil within the engine near the filter(if a 2nd magnet was placed on it) I guess it is small chance, but just a concern.

You can double up for more coverage of the oil flowing thru on both sides of the filter.

About a 3" diameter oil filter case. Here is a pic with the spare magnet(says Filter Size Range: 2.900-3.400 in) and spare filter.

I see what you mean. I had something metal next to mine and it wasn't sticking to the back . Like you said it's probably not a big concern although I don't have the car in front of me like you do. I guess you could run the car for a minute before putting the FilterMag back on if you were really worried to allow fluid to pass through that line and move anything. If you had one for the trans too I guess the hope would be that it would catch any small stuff as well?

I also see what you mean about using 2. I had the heavier duty one they offered at the time so I just got the one. It looks like they have newer stuff now. Thanks so much for the measurements HyperBlue, just my luck it looks like I have the one a range smaller so it looks like I need a new one if I decide to get that again.

Thanks for the feedback so far.

[G Fo12ce]

Update: I was able to speak with Richard yesterday, the owner of Drainplugmagnets.com. Seems like a smaller company. I was able to give him a VIN# to see if he can get the ball rolling to see if they have more than just the engine oil plug. We'll see if anything comes of it.

[G Fo12ce]

Update: I was able to find out yesterday that that the 8L90 A8 is sealed unit and when serviced the fluid is pumped in and out. It has no drain bolt. I am asking here if anyone knows what the pan is made of for sure, although it's most likely steel to so I can go the route of using one on the pan.

The factory drain bolt for the differential is a M20x1.5x16 and already magnetic, although most likely not same pulling power as the Dimple. Dimple makes a M20x1.5x14 (not including the magnet) so they have one that will fit our cars for that.

As soon as I find out for sure on the trans oil pan I can tell those interested what would make a Camaro SS "kit" for autos. I'll ask the manufacturer if they will make a package price too.

[G Fo12ce]

This thread hasn't seen much action and I totally get it like I said at the beginning. However, I decided to buy this stuff and be the guinea pig. My plan is to keep this car at least 5 years so if these magnetic plugs and "black holes" help a little bit to improve engine/trans/diff wear great. If not, it's not a huge loss for me. I also wanted to note you can do this a lot cheaper using the PowerSlut Racing fasteners, they also make an M12 and M20. I just wanted to try what I thought was the better product.

I plan to put these on as soon as I get the car. We'll see if I catch anything after break in.

When I spoke to Richard at Dimple he said they have a Cerakote coating. It's a titanium dust they use on firearms and other items. I'm sure it's overkill for this application but the titanium grey sure looks cool. It's also supposed to have good chemical resistance, abrasion, and anti-corrosion properties. The magnets are strong and neodymium. There are some video's and other info on their site.

Here are some pics I took, sorry a few were out of focus. On the M12 I didn't notice I picked up a staple from somewhere LOL. It was kind of comical trying to keep those black holes apart for the pic. They start to lean and move around even like 3-4 inches away.

ALL:


Stack Of 4 Super Black Holes:


M12 Engine Oil Pan Drain Plug:


M20 Differential Drain Plug: