09-17-2019, 10:53 AM | #15 |
Seeing as Chevrolet supply inventory is at 72 days out, little to no effect will be felt in terms of delivery of Camaros.
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09-17-2019, 11:12 AM | #16 |
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The Unions are also responsible for paying off their mafia bosses. The mob still runs the Teamsters and the UAW. Expect some indictments soon as a few UAW bosses just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar...AGAIN.
The Democrats also have huge influence as the Unions will endorse a democrat every time. Currently the Demo's would love to see the economy take a downturn as they hate the President. This could be a long one. And I have a 2020 C8 on order too. |
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Plenty of college grads, experienced qualified professions, and middle managers struggle to stay middle class. Taxes, cost of living, and family healthcare and including debts of higher education, mortgage/rent is drowning out the majority. Until they are checks and balances and true government reform with cost of living wages adjusted to GDP growth and inflation the corporate execs, stockholders will squeeze the labor wages to save their profit margins. Large corporations have the net worth to support higher wages and benefits but won't and why should they. The bigger dog is king in controlling cost of living wages across the board. If Johnny X is paid on $30 per hour and happy then Johnny Z will most likely be paid about the same in another company. They are wage labor consultants that suggest the labor rate across the profession and that will be the range. If Johnny Z says no then Big dog corp will say hit the bricks.. Good that we still have the right to protest but taking that pay cut on a picket line is a hard pill to swallow. Overall hope the fight will produce what is needed to stay middle class for the majority. Time will only tell. |
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You do realize they gave up money during the dark days of GM to help GM right? So now that GM has been successful since the bankruptcy they can share some of that with the employees who helped it during that time. She is not the issue. While she has done good things from a company perspective, they have neutered GM when it comes to cars. Where is any excitement? Lloyd Reuss brought me high hopes his daddy was on the GN team, yet nothing to be excited about..... Quote:
I'm union. Try taking away the union and see what you get. Most unions are pathetic, the problem is there are usually slightly less pathetic than the company trying to screw you over. I also will not be buying or ordering a car at this time due to the strike. Same goes for service unless it is something unavoidable. |
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09-17-2019, 12:34 PM | #19 |
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GM could always move to non union states and hire non union labor.many "foreign" car companies have done this and it worked out well for them.you dont think part of the reason a new SS is 50,000 dollars is high union wages and benefits?kind of tough to compete against foreign products when you have to meet union "demands".i wouldnt be surprised to see more GM products built in china if the union really puts the screws to GM.
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09-17-2019, 12:53 PM | #21 |
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Your being funny right? I'm union and I feel you. The reason the companies have all the power and companies own people has everything to do with the people, union or not. They cry and piss and moan and the sad fact is most morons, whatever they make, live beyond their means and losing even so much as one paycheck will cripple them. This isn't unique to incomes levels considered to be poor or well off. Most won't strike because they can't replace income or nothing saved for emergencies, let alone having the balls to follow thru with something. |
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09-17-2019, 01:46 PM | #23 |
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I like unions when they exist to protect worker/consumer safety where the company leverages the need to work with skirting their own costs.
I dont support unions that exist to boost worker wages or retain current employee's jobs. And I dont think they should leverage one purpose to prop up the other. If you read a bunch of what's going on regarding this, it seems a good deal has to do with being concerned over job security as companies move away from combustion engines to more simpler electric drivetrains. A lot of people who depend on the more parts and higher failure rate and complexity of combustion engine'd vehicles over electrical are worried they'll be looking for different jobs as those vehicles are phased out. Which sucks for them, but it's not like it's not going to happen. Grasping at the past wont do any better at preparing them for dealing with a world that doesn't need that many mechanics, auto workers etc. |
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I saw less than 20 people protesting outside the Ren Cen this morning. The lack of people was pretty funny.
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09-17-2019, 07:41 PM | #26 |
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And they can’t live on $63.00 an hour wages! I wish I could get half of that an hour! The time for unions has come and gone in my opinion!
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09-17-2019, 08:30 PM | #27 |
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That’s all in including benefits. That is NOT what they are paid.
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