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Old 09-22-2020, 11:50 AM   #15
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I think the LT guys are a bit behind the curve in terms of power production. If I was to mod my car, turbo and enough fuel to supply how much power I want to make. No need for cam, heads ported intakes, throttle bodies...
Is this not the case with any of the bigger superchargers? I'm still a total novice when it comes to these kinda things, but isn't the limit usually fuel on the LT1/LT4? You would still need to cam your car to meet the fuel needs of big boost.
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Old 09-22-2020, 02:15 PM   #16
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Is this not the case with any of the bigger superchargers? I'm still a total novice when it comes to these kinda things, but isn't the limit usually fuel on the LT1/LT4? You would still need to cam your car to meet the fuel needs of big boost.
Not true, with a complimentary port injection set up, you can run a stock cam AND a stock LT1 fuel system and make tons of power.
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Old 09-22-2020, 04:35 PM   #17
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I think they are all pretty good in 2020. I will say there must be a reason why the big 3 motor companies have used PD on all their flagship cars for the last decade or longer.
Ease of production and assembly.
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Old 09-22-2020, 05:35 PM   #18
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I think they are all pretty good in 2020. I will say there must be a reason why the big 3 motor companies have used PD on all their flagship cars for the last decade or longer.
I’m having a hard time coming up with one non-PD factory supercharged engine outside of a turbocharger.

Of those Eaton seems to be a large supplier to OEM applications & we all know the extensive testing undergone by OEM manufacturers & the specific guidelines they operate under. I’m sure rotor speed & belt durability play a role here. Whether people want to admit it or not PD blowers, mostly being directly mounted to the engine, & on factory engines since the 60’s, offer a stability factor centrifugals simply can not match.

Now, in terms of customer perception, a PD gives an overal feel of more displacement over a centrifugal style belt driven SC, with the ability to maintain excellent street manners.

Having owned many, & I mean MANY turbo vehicles, my personal choice would be Chevy made a twin turbo V8, but a PD, for several reasons, is second.

Ask a ZL1 owner if they would ditch a PD blower for a centri SC & I think you’d see a pretty plain pattern.

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Not true, with a complimentary port injection set up, you can run a stock cam AND a stock LT1 fuel system and make tons of power.
A switch to an efficiently driven turbo system would vastly extend the RWHP abilities of the factory LT4 fuel system.
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Old 09-22-2020, 05:50 PM   #19
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Guess you’re not planning on running a radiator...?
Radiator, we don't need no stinking radiator. HAHA thats a promod engine, but I will be running a Procharger Fo Sho.
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Old 09-22-2020, 08:59 PM   #20
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For max performance I'm a fan of twins. Factory twins would be the best of both worlds. Singles are fast at the track just a little slower to respond for street duty is all. A PD charger is so much fun for a daily I chose a Whipple 2.9 for one and twins for the other. I would do the 2650 in most every case on any ride. Any way you look at it FI is an awesome choice and we are living in a great age.
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Old 09-22-2020, 10:03 PM   #21
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The PD is still the best way to go overall in my opinion. Its wicked on the street, doesn't require a stall converter if you want to really go drag racing and have killer 60ft times. They can all make about the same power but the PD is instant boost and will make you grin when you hit the loud pedal while the others are waiting for the boost to show up. Who wants to run a big converter on the street that is hard to tune, creates a bunch more heat in the tranny fluid and internal parts trans parts. If you don't want to drag race the Centri SCs are really cool way to go, they make a bunch of noise like a blower would normally make, the PDs are quieter for sure but if you can hook it at the hit you'll say bye bye to most others who challenge you. Did you notice I didn't bring up which PD blower I prefer?
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Old 09-23-2020, 06:54 AM   #22
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The PD is still the best way to go overall in my opinion. Its wicked on the street, doesn't require a stall converter if you want to really go drag racing and have killer 60ft times. They can all make about the same power but the PD is instant boost and will make you grin when you hit the loud pedal while the others are waiting for the boost to show up. Who wants to run a big converter on the street that is hard to tune, creates a bunch more heat in the tranny fluid and internal parts trans parts. If you don't want to drag race the Centri SCs are really cool way to go, they make a bunch of noise like a blower would normally make, the PDs are quieter for sure but if you can hook it at the hit you'll say bye bye to most others who challenge you. Did you notice I didn't bring up which PD blower I prefer?
When are you going to slap a 2650 on that c7, Greg?
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Old 09-23-2020, 07:58 AM   #23
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Probably never. I'm staying NA for now and working on getting into the 10s this fall. Just ran 11.18@124 last weekend at street car takeover. E85, long tubes, air filter and drag radials. If at some point Magnuson wants to do something again I'll take that under consideration. We did talk a few months back when I got the vet but nothing yet.
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Old 09-23-2020, 09:45 AM   #24
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Maggie here because that torque makes the car feel like it's just itching to go with the slightest tickle of the skinny pedal. The power doesn't drop-off, either. I can spin the tires as much as I want rolling into the throttle from a dig and it just builds power through the shift. My set-up is really plain and simple and feels like it fits exactly what I was looking for.
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:08 PM   #25
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for blowers only - maggie 2650 is stout.
Im a turbo guy though. Love my single 76mm on my camaro.
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:47 PM   #26
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Choda I love the Turbo's also. Nothing like them on a 2 step.
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:48 PM   #27
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Maggie here because that torque makes the car feel like it's just itching to go with the slightest tickle of the skinny pedal. The power doesn't drop-off, either. I can spin the tires as much as I want rolling into the throttle from a dig and it just builds power through the shift. My set-up is really plain and simple and feels like it fits exactly what I was looking for.
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Old 09-23-2020, 02:02 PM   #28
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Probably never. I'm staying NA for now and working on getting into the 10s this fall. Just ran 11.18@124 last weekend at street car takeover. E85, long tubes, air filter and drag radials. If at some point Magnuson wants to do something again I'll take that under consideration. We did talk a few months back when I got the vet but nothing yet.
Sounds like a plan. Keep this one close enough to stock so that you can also enjoy it on the street. Btw: Do you still have the Camaro?
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