Most Cost Effective Way to Hit High 11's and/or Preferably Higher Trap Speeds

[Camaro Dude]

Ok, I'm not going to beat around the bush with this question, and I don't think that it has been asked...

The new M5 runs gets through the quarter in 11.9 seconds at 120.3 and these are my target minimum numbers...particularly that trap speed.

I'm seriously considering the AGP turbo but I'd really like to target this question at the cam gurus here.

Is there any way to match those above numbers with a cam and headers with tune, at significantly lower cost than going with the turbo setup?

I do understand that the AGP setup will blow away those numbers previously posted, but now I'm becoming more concerned with my project going over budget, and hence entertaining other options.

Hoping the cam gurus chime in, I'm very new in the "muscle car" game.

[Rhino79]

Cam and bolt ons. Light suspension work, nice wheel/tire combo. Deep 11s easy with good driving.

[KyWildcats]

tvs2300 or what rhino said!!!!

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Rhino79

Cam and bolt ons. Light suspension work, nice wheel/tire combo. Deep 11s easy with good driving.

This. With the 1LE gearing you probably don't even need the cam but anything worth doing is worth over doing.

[willhe64]

Intake cam headers tune. Perhaps some wheel hop prevention in the rear suspension.

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by Rhino79

Cam and bolt ons. Light suspension work, nice wheel/tire combo. Deep 11s easy with good driving.

When you say wheel tire combo, are you referring to drag tires?

I'd like to be able to do high 11's, but on my existing 1LE tire setup ?

[Camaro Dude]

When you guys write intake/cam/headers/tune, can you be just a tad bit more specific, perhaps even with a price? (Approx)

AGP I'm looking at $6500-$7000 and I can install it myself.

What are we looking at for the cheapest and well thought out NA setup to allow Sledge to keep up with an M5, without making a huge fuss about it if you catch my drift?

If the price ends up being not too far off the AGP turbo setup, I'll go with AGP then.

Just curious if NA can be done at significant savings, again, referring to my above target numbers.

[Pro Stock John]

Motion427 is in Eastern Canada and quite knowledgeable, maybe get to know him too.

Local friend did blower, headers, tune, a little suspension, and I don't recall tires and went 11.9@121 with Maggie.

I'd think headers/cam/tune and the other little stuff you'll have 11 second potential.

[Dexman1349]

These are the prices I've uncovered during my research & purchase.

Things I've installed already (self installed):
Headers + exhaust = $1500-$2000
CAI = $350-$400
Ported throttlebody = $150
Tune = $500-$600 (dyno tune scheduled for 2 weeks from now at a shop)
Sway bars + endlinks (not sure if necessary for drag) = $400-$500

Parts that I've researched and plan to add:
Solid subframe bushings = $500
trailing arms / toe rods = $350
3.91 gears & posi mod = $500 (install additional $500 - quote from same shop that will do tune)
Cam = $3000 (includes valve springs, oil pump, timing chain, installation, etc)
Coilovers = $1500 - 2k

I'm sitting at ~$4k invested so far (includes other things like catch can, shortthrow shifter, etc), with another ~$7k planned, but this also includes suspension stuff that you'd want to do either way. This does not include anything towards wheels/tires either, which I would expect to drop ~$2500 more (wheels + tires).

[Rhino79]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

When you say wheel tire combo, are you referring to drag tires?

I'd like to be able to do high 11's, but on my existing 1LE tire setup ?

It may be doeable, but realistically, huge wheels suck for drag racing. Not only are they heavy, they don't have enough sidewall to let the tire bite hard on a launch. A 70 lb wheel/tire assy on each side of the rear is very violent when it shakes and or wheel hops. Also, I'd doubt it would be very consistant with a 20" dr

So when I have a customer wanting me to spec a combo to drag with, whether it be bolt ons, or all out, I say buy wheels and tires.

The car works better, less harmful on the driveline, and will be much more consistant at the track. Plus the weight reduction from rotating mass will help et and trap speed as well.

[Irnwkrkev]

Adding more power without being able to put it to the ground is useless.

You can dump all the money you want on turbos and still run 12's if you can't hook.

....never mind break a lot of shit without driveline and suspension mods.

[axis]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

When you say wheel tire combo, are you referring to drag tires?

I'd like to be able to do high 11's, but on my existing 1LE tire setup ?

Originally Posted by Irnwkrkev

Adding more power without being able to put it to the ground is useless.

You can dump all the money you want on turbos and still run 12's if you can't hook.

....never mind break a lot of shit without driveline and suspension mods.

This.

Go look at the fast times list and see that virtually EVERY car that's in the 11's are running drag tires. That's not just coincidence. The stock tires just aren't sticky enough to pull the 60ft's you need to get the numbers you want. Best thing you could do is to get another set of rear wheels to put some DR's on. That way you can swap them out when you go to the track.

[B-_-RAD]

Headers/cai/tune, and a small shot of nitrous (wet 75-100) and of course some tires. That should exceed your expectations.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

When you say wheel tire combo, are you referring to drag tires?

I'd like to be able to do high 11's, but on my existing 1LE tire setup ?

This is going to prove as a problem. I would recommend to at the very least run a 305/35R20 or 315/35R20 drag radial on those 1LE wheels.