[ZRacerLE]

Another comment about the corvette forum:
I bet many of us here will eventually pull the trigger for the C8Z. GT500 guys will too. But I think I'll stick around here and M6G instead of hanging out there. Too pretentious for me.

[waterman]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

That's what I suspected, but was too lazy to research it. I watch Oli all the time in GTLM.

This REALLY makes the ZL1 look even better in the ring time comparison - an engineer who can drive ties a pro corvette driver.

Edit: sorry for the duplicate point, waterman. You said it better.

Love me some GTLM, #3 and #4 are having a great season. Few to no mistakes with good pace.

An engineer that can drive is almost an understatement. With that said; Oli is a factory pilot. I think that you will agree; advantage C8.

[waterman]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

Another comment about the corvette forum:
I bet many of us here will eventually pull the trigger for the C8Z.

True dat!

I'm thinking about it. Momma said OK and that's 3/4 of the battle.

5.5 ltrs. of ME NA DOHC, FPC high revving wonderfulness! Have you seen any updates on brakes and/or suspension? Z07 option?

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by waterman

True dat!

I'm thinking about it. Momma said OK and that's 3/4 of the battle.

5.5 ltrs. of ME NA DOHC, FPC high revving wonderfulness! Have you seen any updates on brakes and/or suspension? Z07 option?

I haven't, besides the CF wheels which really help the GT500 lap like crazy.

I really do believe they'll finally make the Z07 package as hardcore as the ZLE. They'll get some ridiculous well below 7 minute ring time out of it and completely disrupt the sports car world like they did with the C6Z.

As "Jake" likes to say: "Take no prisoners".

[mblum]

Watching the C7 Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1 it always seemed like the chassis was maybe, lack of a better term, "overwhelmed" in the higher HP C7 trim packages. I've been on track with the C7 Grand Sport and Z06 and I think the C7 Grand Sport was a great car. From my experience and tracking with the Z06 guys I think the ZL1 can put power down better than the Z06 and is more balanced/predictable stock for stock when driving close to the limit, which I think shows how good the Camaro's chassis really is and how well it can use it's power.

The C8's times are from the base model with the Z51 package, I have a feeling we will see it's new chassis come to life and really shine when the higher HP trim packages are released with different tires and suspension packages. I think the new C8 chassis will be able to make use of all the power and will deliver incredible track times when that happens.

[racer01]

Originally Posted by mblum

Watching the C7 Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1 it always seemed like the chassis was maybe, lack of a better term, "overwhelmed" in the higher HP C7 trim packages. I've been on track with the C7 Grand Sport and Z06 and I think the C7 Grand Sport was a great car. From my experience and tracking with the Z06 guys I think the ZL1 can put power down better than the Z06 and is more balanced/predictable stock for stock when driving close to the limit, which I think shows how good the Camaro's chassis really is and how well it can use it's power.

The C8's times are from the base model with the Z51 package, I have a feeling we will see it's new chassis come to life and really shine when the higher HP trim packages are released with different tires and suspension packages. I think the new C8 chassis will be able to make use of all the power and will deliver incredible track times when that happens.

Couldn't agree more. Had a C5Z and C6 that I tracked, and never really got interested in the C7 as it seemed to have that same chassis twitchiness (transverse leaf spring issue?) that the earlier cars have that just didn't feel right to me. When I drove a 6th gen ZL1 I was surprised as it had the engine and trans I wanted (manual) and the chassis and suspension was super "euro" feeling to me....solid, planted, controlled and well balanced.

I am anxiously waiting on the C8 Z06...totally agree that the C8 we have now is just a teaser of things to come.

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by racer01

I am anxiously waiting on the C8 Z06...totally agree that the C8 we have now is just a teaser of things to come.

Hopefully, but maybe not. GM, the all-electric car company, announced this week that it is transferring all its Corvette engineers to the autonomous and electric car programs, effective Sept. 1.

Hopefully the Z06 engineering work is done...

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

Hopefully, but maybe not. GM, the all-electric car company, announced this week that it is transferring all its Corvette engineers to the autonomous and electric car programs, effective Sept. 1.

Hopefully the Z06 engineering work is done...

They are not going to just dis-regard the development of the Z06, or the ZR1. They themselves have said there are higher performing models coming in the pipeline. The Z06, especially is their golden egg track performance version.

What I would actually love to see is the 6th Gen. Camaro performance engineering team that is responsible for the SS 1LE and the ZL1 1LE move over to Corvette.

Actually, equally as much, I would like to see the QC department from Camaro move to Corvette, that is the one area where Corvette always lacks from my experience.

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

They are not going to just dis-regard the development of the Z06, or the ZR1. They themselves have said there are higher performing models coming in the pipeline. The Z06, especially is their golden egg track performance version.

GM has only said that engineering work on “future Corvette models already in progress will be finished.” Presumably that means the normally aspirated, flat-plane Z06 for sure - and hopefully the twin-turbo ZR1 and 1,000-hp Zora.

The big worry is that GM changes direction every 2 minutes, and at some point soon ICE Corvettes may not fulfill the vision of America’s all-electric car company.

[nicktechla]

If the Z06 comes out with the 5.5L flat plane crank engine..

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

They are not going to just dis-regard the development of the Z06, or the ZR1. They themselves have said there are higher performing models coming in the pipeline. The Z06, especially is their golden egg track performance version.

What I would actually love to see is the 6th Gen. Camaro performance engineering team that is responsible for the SS 1LE and the ZL1 1LE move over to Corvette.

Actually, equally as much, I would like to see the QC department from Camaro move to Corvette, that is the one area where Corvette always lacks from my experience.

Great idea!

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by nicktechla

If the Z06 comes out with the 5.5L flat plane crank engine..

I've seen quite a few articles about the Z06 hitting the streets sometime earlier in 2021 as a 2022 model with the flat-plane crank NA 5.5L engine. Guesses for HP seem to be somewhere in the 600's, but there's some discussion about how Chevy might be handling the vibrations from that motor.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by ember1205

I've seen quite a few articles about the Z06 hitting the streets sometime earlier in 2021 as a 2022 model with the flat-plane crank NA 5.5L engine. Guesses for HP seem to be somewhere in the 600's, but there's some discussion about how Chevy might be handling the vibrations from that motor.

I don't think we are going to see as high of HP or TQ as most are predicting.

Think about it, the performance numbers are already there in the base C8, the C8R is at 500 HP, limited by rules, but I bet we see at most 550hp and 500lb ft of TQ. That would be the sweet spot.

If GM is truly concentrating on going back to its roots with the Z06, (like in the C5 & C6), they are going to focus on the handling and weight. You go 600+ and even in mid-engine form, you are going to run into traction issues again. That is for the ZR1, the Z06 is going to be more about balance and using all that power.

Here is what I am expecting and hoping for...

Lighter weight than the C8 base (I am hoping to see 3,4xx lbs as the weight, but not sure they can get it down that far.
), 5.5L flat crank V8, 9K redline, 550hp/500tq, fixed roof, a solid mounted rear-end bolted directly to the chassis, and less bushings and more hard mount attach points where able, Cup 2 tires standard on the base Z06, Cup2 R's on the Z07 package. Obviously aero of some sort.


For performance numbers I am targeting 2.6 0-60, high 10's 1/4 mile, 1.2 lateral G's on the base Z06 and 1.3 lateral G's with the Z07 package.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I don't think we are going to see as high of HP or TQ as most are predicting.

Think about it, the performance numbers are already there in the base C8, the C8R is at 500 HP, limited by rules, but I bet we see at most 550hp and 500lb ft of TQ. That would be the sweet spot.

If GM is truly concentrating on going back to its roots with the Z06, (like in the C5 & C6), they are going to focus on the handling and weight.

Here is what I am expecting and hoping for...

Lighter weight than the C8 base, 5.5L flat crank V8, 9K redline, 550hp/500tq, fixed roof, a solid mounted rear-end bolted directly to the chassis, and less bushings and more hard mount attach points where able, Cup 2 tires standard on the base Z06, Cup2 R's on the Z07 package. Obviously aero of some sort.

For performance numbers I am targeting 2.6 0-60, high 10's 1/4 mile, 1.2 later G's on the base Z06 and 1.3 lateral G's with the Z07 package.

Agree that it's impossible to know for sure. One article I read did specifically call out that the motor was detuned on the .R and that they predicted it would hit into the 600's on HP while torque remaining about where it currently is.

Dunno. We'll all find out when it hits the street!