[unavailablezl1]

The 760 hp won't stand long and the ZL1 will soon have the 755 hp and more torque. The ZL1 now has more torque.

[IneedAZ]

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[FNxR3DNECK]

Not bad, right around the 750HP that I guessed but I'm not surprised they went the extra little bit to eek out the ZR1 as well. I will expect the 0-60 & 1/4 mile times to be right between the A10 ZL1 & A8 ZR1. As for track times.... even with their "track package" I don't expect it to beat the ZL1 1LE but it could be close!!! Interested to see how much it weighs too...

[Fast02Z06]

I like all cars and thank God not into brand loyalty. I think Ford is really on to something here imho. the 3rd gen coyote has been nothing short of amazing and has alot of potential to handle heavy up with fi and minimal bottom end work. with that said and this new gt5 they have definitely placed the bar high for GM. Where they might have issues again imho is adm (and lack of manual). I'm dying to see what a tune, headers, E85, ice tank and a pulley will do???? I also wonder how long before we see gt5 blower swapped coyoes (if it would even work). Good times ahead.

[ChrisRa13]

Originally Posted by JD2018_ZL1

Nice numbers. Will be interesting to see the reliability. Ford has had issues with 5.2 FPC. Ive been a ford guy most my life. I still have a 14 GT500. I would have considered a new GT500 but I won't pay an ADM, and I don't think ill like the auto in it. Id have to drive it to really know but I enjoy the manual in these type vehicles.

So many great cars out there and I want them all. I even am looking at buying a Golf R or RS right now because I enjoy all types of different cars. Right now is just an awesome time in auto manufacturing.

I do want to add that guys are getting the same power out of GTs with a super charger.

They are dropping the FPC in the 5.2 for the GT500 from my understanding.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by ScatPack

It will be $120k with ADM. Dealers will do all kinds of crappy things to max their profits and insure only rich guys and princes in dubai will get one.

Then they can keep it. Not paying 1 cent over MSRP.

[JD2018_ZL1]

Originally Posted by ChrisRa13

They are dropping the FPC in the 5.2 for the GT500 from my understanding.

The GT500 engine gets a more-traditional cross-plane crankshaft. “You don't really need it,” Widmann said. “Because you’ve got such a short runner off the supercharger. . . you don’t get a benefit going to a flat plane.”

Carl Widmann, the chief engineer at Ford Performance

http://https://www.roadandtrack.com/...ering-details/

[13vertss]

The big question now is weight. If it weighs over 4000lbs, its going to need the extra HP.

[Markoz28]

The cars going to weight 3900+ lbs and I’m guessing it’ll run 10.90s. If they sold it for 75k I’d buy one. Most likely it’ll be 85k (for the base) and 20k mark up.

[Mark R]

It's definitely the golden age of performance automobiles. I could have never dreamed of cars like we have today when I was a kid. That being said, it's easy to want to jump to the next greatest thing, which as car buyers know, is often a very costly proposition.

I'm immensely satisfied with my 2018 A-10, which I paid for in cash, with full PPF, BMR suspension, etc. My car is staying put.

[SSport16]

Let's see if they can get this car to hold down some traction...the last GT500 with 662 HP couldn't even get out of the 4.0's 0-60 times. I still expecting the current ZL1 to be the overall better performance car.

[Faster12]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

Not bad, right around the 750HP that I guessed but I'm not surprised they went the extra little bit to eek out the ZR1 as well. I will expect the 0-60 & 1/4 mile times to be right between the A10 ZL1 & A8 ZR1. As for track times.... even with their "track package" I don't expect it to beat the ZL1 1LE but it could be close!!! Interested to see how much it weighs too...

I am in no way happy about what I'm about to say, but I think you might be wrong here. Given how close the ZL1 and GT350 were in the Head2Head, I would imagine the differences the ZL1 1LE was able to create, will be swallowed up part and parcel by this thing. Carbon fiber wheels, a DCT, 760hp and whatever aero they are slapping on should give it a considerable advantage over the ZLE. I expect it to be around 2-3 secs quicker on the same track.

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by Faster12

I am in no way happy about what I'm about to say, but I think you might be wrong here. Given how close the ZL1 and GT350 were in the Head2Head, I would imagine the differences the ZL1 1LE was able to create, will be swallowed up part and parcel by this thing. Carbon fiber wheels, a DCT, 760hp and whatever aero they are slapping on should give it a considerable advantage over the ZLE. I expect it to be around 2-3 secs quicker on the same track.

Very valid argument, here's my counter:

GT350R vs. ZL1 (M6) Head to Head was pretty close, what the 350R lacked in HP (125hp deficit) it made up for with weight and MOST importantly tires, it was on R-Comps while the ZL1 was on the 220TW SC3s.

Now for the ZL1 1LE vs. GT500 "track pack": If/WHEN we see this comparison it will almost certainly be with the A10 instead of M6 so the DCT will be less of an advantage for the stang. Yes it will have the HP advantage over the Z but it will not have the GRIP advantage like the previous scenario, I would say that goes in favor of the Z this time, because despite popular belief I can say will 100% confidence that the SC3R is a better tire than the Cup2 and there's more of it 305/325 vs 305/315! And we all know the Alpha chassis is better than the stang chassis, the big question is weight, if it's as chunky as some people are thinking that 100HP won't be that much of an advantage as we think...

So I think in a GT500 vs ZL1 1LE A10 it will be VERY CLOSE! Could come down to the track, say Road America>GT500, Laguna Seca>ZLE, you get my point.

[ChrisRa13]

Originally Posted by JD2018_ZL1

The GT500 engine gets a more-traditional cross-plane crankshaft. “You don't really need it,” Widmann said. “Because you’ve got such a short runner off the supercharger. . . you don’t get a benefit going to a flat plane.”

Carl Widmann, the chief engineer at Ford Performance

http://https://www.roadandtrack.com/...ering-details/

I thought so.