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Old 12-26-2017, 08:01 AM   #29
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I would zero out the slip tables for all gears.
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:27 PM   #30
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OK. This is not a daily driver, but I do drive it on the street a good bit. Will zeroing out slip in all gears affect drive quality on the road? I'm new to this so if this is a stupid question, oh well, I'm trying to learn.
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Old 12-26-2017, 10:54 PM   #31
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Nope...it will improve the driving experience all around significantly. Fwiw I am so much happier with the A8 after tuning. It's how it should have came from the dealership.
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Old 12-28-2017, 02:15 PM   #32
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Alright sounds good. I'll have him zero out all the gears and see how she rides.
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Old 12-28-2017, 05:22 PM   #33
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I would zero out the slip tables for all gears.
that's what I hear many are doing lately. if I'm in the ballpark with the guess on the reason.... limiting the slip is like adding an old school shift kit.... in a sense its increasing the line pressure to reduce slippage?
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Old 12-30-2017, 11:04 PM   #34
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from my understanding, it removes the slippage altogether which in turn keeps the line pressure from dropping to nothing.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:50 PM   #35
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Probably a dumb question but why does changing the fluid stop the shuddering (albeit temporarily for some...)?

P.S. I had mine flushed a few weeks ago and so far the shuddering is gone.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:24 PM   #36
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Probably a dumb question but why does changing the fluid stop the shuddering (albeit temporarily for some...)?

P.S. I had mine flushed a few weeks ago and so far the shuddering is gone.

New fluid usually has enough detergents in it to clean any debris or contamination off the clutches for full engagement.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:11 AM   #37
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Probably a dumb question but why does changing the fluid stop the shuddering (albeit temporarily for some...)?

P.S. I had mine flushed a few weeks ago and so far the shuddering is gone.
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New fluid usually has enough detergents in it to clean any debris or contamination off the clutches for full engagement.
I was told the new fluid was synthetic and the part number backs that up. I also thought they mentioned a programming update but don't see that on the service record:

A CUSTOMER STATES ON LIGHT ACCELERATION FROM 55-60 MPH TRANSMISSION SEEMS TO HAVE A SHUDDER VIBRATION FEELING, NO CEL IS ON, ONLY HAPPENS WHEN HOT
CAUSE: SHUDDER
8480478 FLUSH AND DRAIN FLUIDS FOR TRANSMISSION SHAKE AND/OR SHUTTER REPAIR
220 WC
6 88865601 FLUID
12 19353429 FLUID
FC: 9090
PART#: 88865601
COUNT: 6
CLAIM TYPE: ZREG
AUTH CODE:

FLUSH AND DRAIN FLUIDS FOR TRANSMISSION SHAKE, REMOVED SHIFT CABLES BRACKETS TOWARD TRANSMISSION SOME REMOVED COOLER LINES COMPLETE COOLER SYSTEM PER BULLETIN REMOVED TRANS PAN DRAINED FLUID AND CLEANED RE-INSTALLED PAN. RE-FILLED TRANS WITH REVISED FLUID PER DOC ID 4526930 (16-NA-175) (TRANS FLUSH CODE E837F96 IS .6 AT 70 DEGREES) ROAD TESTED OK
************************************************** **

So when I Google the two part numbers, the 88865601 is AC Delco Dexron VI Automatic Transmission Fluid, and the 19353429 ends up being a GM part number for Mobil 1 Synthetic LV ATF HP Automatic Transmission Fluid

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Old 01-14-2018, 02:45 PM   #38
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I was told the new fluid was synthetic and the part number backs that up. I also thought they mentioned a programming update but don't see that on the service record:

A CUSTOMER STATES ON LIGHT ACCELERATION FROM 55-60 MPH TRANSMISSION SEEMS TO HAVE A SHUDDER VIBRATION FEELING, NO CEL IS ON, ONLY HAPPENS WHEN HOT
CAUSE: SHUDDER
8480478 FLUSH AND DRAIN FLUIDS FOR TRANSMISSION SHAKE AND/OR SHUTTER REPAIR
220 WC
6 88865601 FLUID
12 19353429 FLUID
FC: 9090
PART#: 88865601
COUNT: 6
CLAIM TYPE: ZREG
AUTH CODE:

FLUSH AND DRAIN FLUIDS FOR TRANSMISSION SHAKE, REMOVED SHIFT CABLES BRACKETS TOWARD TRANSMISSION SOME REMOVED COOLER LINES COMPLETE COOLER SYSTEM PER BULLETIN REMOVED TRANS PAN DRAINED FLUID AND CLEANED RE-INSTALLED PAN. RE-FILLED TRANS WITH REVISED FLUID PER DOC ID 4526930 (16-NA-175) (TRANS FLUSH CODE E837F96 IS .6 AT 70 DEGREES) ROAD TESTED OK
************************************************** **

So when I Google the two part numbers, the 88865601 is AC Delco Dexron VI Automatic Transmission Fluid, and the 19353429 ends up being a GM part number for Mobil 1 Synthetic LV ATF HP Automatic Transmission Fluid

Bill
the new stuff is synthetic, which has a better stability and can handle heat better. this is a given when using most synthetics vs conventional... its mobil 1 hp lv fluid.

however, the flush process, is more so a cleaning process. that's why its done 3 times and drained. I've already had the procedure done back in july 2017.

transmission fluid, however has a high level of detergents in it.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:05 AM   #39
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the new stuff is synthetic, which has a better stability and can handle heat better. this is a given when using most synthetics vs conventional... its mobil 1 hp lv fluid.

however, the flush process, is more so a cleaning process. that's why its done 3 times and drained. I've already had the procedure done back in july 2017.

transmission fluid, however has a high level of detergents in it.
I went to Mobil 1's website and did not see the "Mobil 1 LV ATF HP fluid" that matches the GM part number 19353429. When I google "Mobil 1 LV ATF HP fluid" I find it at:

https://www.thelubricantstore.com

"It is approved and licensed by General Motors against DEXRON® HP ATF, making it a suitable replacement for a variety of GM parts, including GM Part 19355656."

So there seems to be several part numbers for GM ATF and also Mobil 1, so there must be some variation - it's pretty confusing.

The reason for my curiosity is I'd like to change the ATF to Mobil 1 synthetic on my recently purchased 2015 GMC Canyon and would like to use something that is approved by GM. It probably doesn't matter, but just want to make sure I'm covered.

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Old 01-29-2018, 09:05 AM   #40
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I went to Mobil 1's website and did not see the "Mobil 1 LV ATF HP fluid" that matches the GM part number 19353429. When I google "Mobil 1 LV ATF HP fluid" I find it at:

https://www.thelubricantstore.com

"It is approved and licensed by General Motors against DEXRON® HP ATF, making it a suitable replacement for a variety of GM parts, including GM Part 19355656."

So there seems to be several part numbers for GM ATF and also Mobil 1, so there must be some variation - it's pretty confusing.

The reason for my curiosity is I'd like to change the ATF to Mobil 1 synthetic on my recently purchased 2015 GMC Canyon and would like to use something that is approved by GM. It probably doesn't matter, but just want to make sure I'm covered.

Bill
It seems this is the new GM Part number for Mobil 1 Synthetic LV ATF HP Transmission Fluid: 19353429

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Old 02-27-2018, 12:23 AM   #41
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You can use the old stock file with 3.6 if you need to flash back to stock. The backwards incompatibility is a bit of an annoyance. I wish they would update 3.6 to handle 3.7 opening and flashing.

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hey I just purchased my hp pro software last week it arrived today .even though I have no freakin clue what most of this stuff means I'm going to learn it lol.i tried to find the tcc slip tables but I wasn't sure what anything was .if you could point me in the right direction I would be very appreciate
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:48 AM   #42
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hey I just purchased my hp pro software last week it arrived today .even though I have no freakin clue what most of this stuff means I'm going to learn it lol.i tried to find the tcc slip tables but I wasn't sure what anything was .if you could point me in the right direction I would be very appreciate
I take no responsibility for any harm or weird sh!t that might happen to your car. Proceed with caution. Back up your original stock tune file. Also be aware that soon as you write a tune to your car, the warranty is pretty much voided.


Step 1: Contact HpTuners to gain access to version 3.7 BETA. ((Only 3.7 Beta has access to the AC and DoD slip tables.))
Step 2: Read your entire tune file with the 3.7 Beta version. ((You don't need to waste time with FSCM, its bottom read.))
Step 3: Save your stock tune file somewhere safe. Make a copy of it, and edit that file.
Step 4: Trans >> Auto TCC >> TCC Desired Slip.
Step 5: Zero out all the TCC Desired Slip tables for each gear. ((AC and DoD))
Step 6: Write the calibration for the TCM.
Step 7: Test drive.
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