I purchased Carlyle Racing LT4 Short Block for my replacement - Page 2

laynlo15 · 01-01-2020, 12:33 PM

LME has the fix for that. I haven't called them but was told by someone else they have a full bearing for it.
Why did TSP step up when the heads were leaking and not their heads. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Puddin · 01-01-2020, 12:45 PM

PRC is the name of TSP's head lineup. The heads were bought from them brand new. They asked my shop to pull the heads and send them to their shop and that's where they conducted their test and found out that it was their heads that were leaking.

laynlo15 · 01-01-2020, 12:58 PM

Auh, gotcha. I thought you were saying Pray ported the. My bad.

Puddin · 01-01-2020, 01:19 PM

Its all good man. Pray never got the chance to work on the heads. I was using him as my tuner and was out doing fbo logs for him when the oil pump decided to let go.

Markoz28 · 01-01-2020, 03:06 PM

800 whp should be plenty for a street strip car. Should also last a good long time. I’m shooting for 720-750whp in my next set up. I think that should a happy place between speed and reliability.

laynlo15 · 01-01-2020, 03:57 PM

Marko I've been at everyone of the numbers since I bought this car 4 years ago. Backing this motor off a little.

laynlo15 · 01-04-2020, 12:06 PM

Just an update, Carlyle racing should have the short block finished Tuesday and hopefully shipped by Thursday. I did forget to mention it does have a BTR Cam and Lifters, Katech front cover, dod delete, new oil pump, chain, tensioner. Just needs my heads (still not sure what I'm doing on those yet), pan, etc and back in the car. So hopefully all that will happen by the end of January. I may just end up doing just BTR .660 springs, seals and call it a day. The ported heads will obviously make some more power but really don't need anymore then my drag radials can handle. I still need a low side DSX if I want to switch over and run a little E corn this year to save some cost on race fuel.

oldman · 01-04-2020, 01:27 PM

nice to know TSP backs there stuff. I went with Pray ported heads.

L78toLT1 · 01-04-2020, 06:34 PM

Are you sticking with the BTR cam or swapping in your Livernois?

laynlo15 · 01-04-2020, 09:15 PM

Not touching it, staying with the BTR. I'm actually not changing anything. Heads, pan and bam back in the car. Here is the cam that's in it right now. I'm going to order the BTR Platinum .660 springs, I'm going to sell the Livernois cam and lifters, Manley Rods and Pistons. The block may be useable but has to be line bored, I could put it all back together since I have another crank now that needs to have the rod journals turned. But if no one wants to buy the forged pistons and rods, cam I may do that some day. Just wanted to start fresh.

https://www.briantooleyracing.com/bt...fuel-lobe.html

DorkMissile · 01-05-2020, 08:33 AM

FYI - after having my short block apart, it wouldn't be a big deal to modify the middle main cap to take another one of the shell bearings.

One thing I was a little concerned with when I took mine apart, it I had .011" of thrust play before I took it apart. It should be .002 - .0075"

After new Clevite's it is .004"

DapperDan · 01-05-2020, 10:23 AM

Do y'all know if you can get a new LT4 short block right from GM parts. And if so the price. I can't find anything on Pace ,Scroggin Dickey

laynlo15 · 01-05-2020, 11:12 AM

I think you can, just call Greg at Pace Performance.

laynlo15 · 01-05-2020, 11:13 AM

Supposedly LME has the full bearing for the thrust.

01-01-2020, 12:33 PM	#15
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	LME has the fix for that. I haven't called them but was told by someone else they have a full bearing for it. Why did TSP step up when the heads were leaking and not their heads. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-01-2020, 12:58 PM	#17
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Auh, gotcha. I thought you were saying Pray ported the. My bad. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-01-2020, 03:57 PM	#20
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Marko I've been at everyone of the numbers since I bought this car 4 years ago. Backing this motor off a little. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-04-2020, 12:06 PM	#21
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Just an update, Carlyle racing should have the short block finished Tuesday and hopefully shipped by Thursday. I did forget to mention it does have a BTR Cam and Lifters, Katech front cover, dod delete, new oil pump, chain, tensioner. Just needs my heads (still not sure what I'm doing on those yet), pan, etc and back in the car. So hopefully all that will happen by the end of January. I may just end up doing just BTR .660 springs, seals and call it a day. The ported heads will obviously make some more power but really don't need anymore then my drag radials can handle. I still need a low side DSX if I want to switch over and run a little E corn this year to save some cost on race fuel. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-04-2020, 01:27 PM	#22
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,317	nice to know TSP backs there stuff. I went with Pray ported heads. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

01-01-2020, 12:45 PM	#16
Puddin Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,011	PRC is the name of TSP's head lineup. The heads were bought from them brand new. They asked my shop to pull the heads and send them to their shop and that's where they conducted their test and found out that it was their heads that were leaking.

01-01-2020, 01:19 PM	#18
Puddin Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,011	Its all good man. Pray never got the chance to work on the heads. I was using him as my tuner and was out doing fbo logs for him when the oil pump decided to let go.

01-01-2020, 03:06 PM	#19
Markoz28 Drives: 18 ZL1 nightfall grey A10 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,527	800 whp should be plenty for a street strip car. Should also last a good long time. I’m shooting for 720-750whp in my next set up. I think that should a happy place between speed and reliability.

01-04-2020, 06:34 PM	#23
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,787	Are you sticking with the BTR cam or swapping in your Livernois? __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

01-04-2020, 09:15 PM	#24
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Not touching it, staying with the BTR. I'm actually not changing anything. Heads, pan and bam back in the car. Here is the cam that's in it right now. I'm going to order the BTR Platinum .660 springs, I'm going to sell the Livernois cam and lifters, Manley Rods and Pistons. The block may be useable but has to be line bored, I could put it all back together since I have another crank now that needs to have the rod journals turned. But if no one wants to buy the forged pistons and rods, cam I may do that some day. Just wanted to start fresh. https://www.briantooleyracing.com/bt...fuel-lobe.html __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff Last edited by laynlo15; 01-04-2020 at 09:33 PM.

01-05-2020, 08:33 AM	#25
DorkMissile Drives: 18 1SS 1LE HyperBlue Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 612	FYI - after having my short block apart, it wouldn't be a big deal to modify the middle main cap to take another one of the shell bearings. One thing I was a little concerned with when I took mine apart, it I had .011" of thrust play before I took it apart. It should be .002 - .0075" After new Clevite's it is .004" __________________ 2018 1SS 1LE / HBM - ECS Novi 1500 S/C Tuned by Carl @ CJ Tunes

01-05-2020, 10:23 AM	#26
DapperDan Drives: 2017 1SS A8 Nightfall Gray Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 331	Do y'all know if you can get a new LT4 short block right from GM parts. And if so the price. I can't find anything on Pace ,Scroggin Dickey __________________

01-05-2020, 11:12 AM	#27
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I think you can, just call Greg at Pace Performance. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-05-2020, 11:13 AM	#28
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Supposedly LME has the full bearing for the thrust. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

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