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Old 08-22-2018, 07:06 AM   #15
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Was first pull on stock setup done after car was heatsoaked like most companies do when posting before/after gains ?
No that was a fresh pull, then another fresh pull after the install. We never let it get heat soaked on the first pull and we always cool it off for the pull with upgrades. That is the best way to see what you really gain. I feel like heat soaking the first pull is how some people show gains of 20hp with a cold air intake kit lol.
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:28 AM   #16
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any advantage to porting the msd intake? also how big of a difference do you think porting the 95mm tb would make?
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:58 AM   #17
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any advantage to porting the msd intake? also how big of a difference do you think porting the 95mm tb would make?
We did a slight port on one MSD manifold, full bolt on car. It gained maybe 1hp. But I would say a full port job would be worth some power. The ported TB should gain another 2-3 hp over the stock version on a bolt on car.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:47 AM   #18
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No that was a fresh pull, then another fresh pull after the install. We never let it get heat soaked on the first pull and we always cool it off for the pull with upgrades. That is the best way to see what you really gain. I feel like heat soaking the first pull is how some people show gains of 20hp with a cold air intake kit lol.
I agree. Thanks for being so thorough. Always been a fan of tick products.
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Old 08-25-2018, 07:25 PM   #19
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Just need to get this straight- these are direct bolt on parts with good installation instructions... just bolt and go, right?

They are still not cheap but mighty tempting. Is there a core trade in exchange for your stock IM or TB?

How about a canned custom tune for these mods plus other pre-existing mods like 2nd cat delete or GM CAI? With the purchase of a hand held tuner of course.

I've been pretty "hands off" on this car so far but I'm starting to get that itch!
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Old 08-27-2018, 07:29 AM   #20
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Just need to get this straight- these are direct bolt on parts with good installation instructions... just bolt and go, right?

They are still not cheap but mighty tempting. Is there a core trade in exchange for your stock IM or TB?

How about a canned custom tune for these mods plus other pre-existing mods like 2nd cat delete or GM CAI? With the purchase of a hand held tuner of course.

I've been pretty "hands off" on this car so far but I'm starting to get that itch!
Thanks!
They are direct bolt on parts. I think that the MSD does come with instructions for the install. With the 95mm throttle body, you simply don't use the thin metal shim that comes with the manifold for sealing the factory 87 tb.

These parts have been bolted directly on to an otherwise stock car and required no tuning. I can't say that if you have other mods that it won't require some adjustments in the tune. At this time we don't offer any kind of tuning that we can mail out. It is always best to have custom calibrations made once you start doing lots of mods like cat delete or headers.
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Old 08-27-2018, 08:07 PM   #21
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Thank you Matt- sounds like good advice!

Now who's the best Chevy tuner in Vegas?
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Thank you Matt- sounds like good advice!

Now who's the best Chevy tuner in Vegas?
You've got me on that one. I hope that in the next year we are going to start reaching out to install shops in person. That way we have a list of shops that we can recommend in this case.
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:16 PM   #23
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No worries but one last question (sorry, I'm getting a bit thick in my old age)- so what we're seeing on your graph is the larger 95mm TB doing away with the previous loss in power comparing the stock IM vs the MSD below 5K rpm or so- is that the way you're seeing it?

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P.S. also I meant to ask if I purchase this package from you, will it come directly from you (IOW the IM will have all its mounting bolts and necessary parts, etc...).
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:06 PM   #24
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Thank you Matt- sounds like good advice!

Now who's the best Chevy tuner in Vegas?
I vote Joe at Doc's Performance.
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Old 09-04-2018, 07:53 AM   #25
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In for more testing.

With a cam & that induction combo it should pull quite nicely to 7k.
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:29 AM   #26
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I vote Joe at Doc's Performance.
Thank you Mr. Apocolypse! I'll look into them.
Any other suggestions for "Best of..." in Vegas?

Also still hoping to get your opinion Matt- this combo basically retains the stock bottom end torque and then gives you the top end rush gained by the MSD alone, correct?

Thanks and hope you had a good holiday weekend!
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Old 09-04-2018, 12:12 PM   #27
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Thank you Mr. Apocolypse! I'll look into them.
Any other suggestions for "Best of..." in Vegas?

Also still hoping to get your opinion Matt- this combo basically retains the stock bottom end torque and then gives you the top end rush gained by the MSD alone, correct?

Thanks and hope you had a good holiday weekend!
I would guess that if you did a dyno pull from 1k-2k rpm you would see a loss with the MSD manifold. But when you're driving your car in an enjoyable manner, do you ever have it under 2k? lol I know people have said that the MSD will loose power under 3k or whatever. but that is not the case with anything we have put on the dyno.
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Old 09-04-2018, 12:13 PM   #28
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In for more testing.

With a cam & that induction combo it should pull quite nicely to 7k.
It has been done. I have another thread about our Gen V Polluter cam and you can see a dyno graph in that thread.
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