2019 SS 1LE vs. 2019 Bullitt - Page 2

JhonnyGTR · 07-01-2018, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kttxz06

If you are going to spend $62k, look for a slightly used Zl1.

62k in Canada

soloknight6 · 07-01-2018, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted_ST

Why go with 2SS 1LE? What's your reasoning behind it?

Bias mostly. But the 1le is a complete package.

ST1LE · 07-02-2018, 06:44 AM

Outside of price, these two cars don't really warrant comparison.

As was previously suggested, go test drive a PP1 and a 1LE and you will quickly realize they are on two completely different levels. The minor power bump in the Bullit compared to a PP1 won't make or break your decision either.

I do think, FWIW, the Bullit will retain better value. 1LE's are already going mid to low $30K's used and something about these special edition Ford's hold pretty good value. People like the pedigree I suppose.

I do not, I do not like the color or the chrome and think you are paying a mark-up for nothing special. The Bullit is for the Steve McQueen guys.

Plus, the MT82 is total trash compared to the Tremec in the 1LE.

Good luck in your decision OP. Going to be tough without test driving a 1LE. Even test driving an SS if you haven't will help as even that will handle better than the Bullit(PP1).

F1FTY · 07-02-2018, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kttxz06

If you are going to spend $62k, look for a slightly used Zl1.

Not sure ZL1's go for $62k used in Canada?

If so, yeah...no brainer.

BlaqWhole · 07-02-2018, 11:17 AM

I don't know what the US to Canada rates are. But it seems that a Bullitt will be around the same price as a manual trans ZL1 without add-ons. If so then I would go that route instead. Again, it is a GT PP1 with badges on it and a little extra HP.

Spartan268 · 07-02-2018, 01:59 PM

Depends on your priorities. Resale the Bullitt will be a winner. General performance on the track would be the 1le.

I would say used zl1 but a quick check says there is none available locally. And theyre closer to 100k brand new if anyone is wondering. Not worth it

SpeedIsLife · 07-02-2018, 03:17 PM

The people who buy Bullitt's usually do so because they're fans of the movie/McQueen, etc....they're not really about maximum performance for the buck.

They more than likely know they could get more performance for less out of a SS/1LE, a GT PP2, etc..but they're not a Bullitt.

Nostalgia is a funny thing

mcsoul · 07-02-2018, 04:01 PM

My only real problem with the Bullitt is the wheels, so ugly.

13vertss · 07-02-2018, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan268

Depends on your priorities. Resale the Bullitt will be a winner. General performance on the track would be the 1le.

I would say used zl1 but a quick check says there is none available locally. And theyre closer to 100k brand new if anyone is wondering. Not worth it

How can a Bullet at $50,000 msrp be $63,000 in Canada, yet a $63,000 zl1 be near $100,000??

Koldunic · 07-02-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 13vertss

How can a Bullet at $50,000 msrp be $63,000 in Canada, yet a $63,000 zl1 be near $100,000??

My ZL1 1LE is 81k can$.

Don’t know where the 100k comes from. Maybe with dealer extra?

Spartan268 · 07-02-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 13vertss

How can a Bullet at $50,000 msrp be $63,000 in Canada, yet a $63,000 zl1 be near $100,000??

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Originally Posted by Koldunic

My ZL1 1LE is 81k can$.

Don’t know where the 100k comes from. Maybe with dealer extra?

Option out a a ZL1 1LE on the Canadian website. You'll hit 80k BEFORE taxes (MSRP). After sales tax its 90k. No dealer extras. There's also luxury tax as well which scales up the sales tax a smudge higher. And before you know you're scraping at 100k. The OP is from BC so they'll be dealing with ICBC inflated insurance prices. Trust me when I say I been through this struggle. The difference in our calculations might be that I include taxes in my numbers so reality doesn't seem all sunshines and unicorns the dealers play it out to be. But If there's discounts included that's a different story.

Koldunic · 07-02-2018, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan268

Option out a a ZL1 1LE on the Canadian website. You'll hit 80k BEFORE taxes (MSRP). After sales tax its 90k. No dealer extras. There's also luxury tax as well which scales up the sales tax a smudge higher. And before you know you're scraping at 100k. The OP is from BC so they'll be dealing with ICBC inflated insurance prices. Trust me when I say I been through this struggle. The difference in our calculations might be that I include taxes in my numbers so reality doesn't seem all sunshines and unicorns the dealers play it out to be. But If there's discounts included that's a different story.

I wasn’t including taxes.

You have luxury taxe in addition to sales taxes? Ouch.

Spartan268 · 07-02-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Koldunic

I wasn’t including taxes.

You have luxury taxe in addition to sales taxes? Ouch.

Yup. For the ZL1 it'll be an additional 3% for luxury tax. Which is another unnecessary $2500 :| In BC we do get nickle and dimed here a bit more it feels like.

Godfatha · 07-03-2018, 06:45 AM

Taxed when you earn money. Taxed when you buy gas to go to the dealership. Taxed when you buy the car. Taxed more because the car is over a certain value. Taxes taxes taxes.

07-02-2018, 06:44 AM	#17
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	Outside of price, these two cars don't really warrant comparison. As was previously suggested, go test drive a PP1 and a 1LE and you will quickly realize they are on two completely different levels. The minor power bump in the Bullit compared to a PP1 won't make or break your decision either. I do think, FWIW, the Bullit will retain better value. 1LE's are already going mid to low $30K's used and something about these special edition Ford's hold pretty good value. People like the pedigree I suppose. I do not, I do not like the color or the chrome and think you are paying a mark-up for nothing special. The Bullit is for the Steve McQueen guys. Plus, the MT82 is total trash compared to the Tremec in the 1LE. Good luck in your decision OP. Going to be tough without test driving a 1LE. Even test driving an SS if you haven't will help as even that will handle better than the Bullit(PP1). __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

07-02-2018, 11:17 AM	#19
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	I don't know what the US to Canada rates are. But it seems that a Bullitt will be around the same price as a manual trans ZL1 without add-ons. If so then I would go that route instead. Again, it is a GT PP1 with badges on it and a little extra HP.

07-02-2018, 01:59 PM	#20
Spartan268 Drives: HB 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 518	Depends on your priorities. Resale the Bullitt will be a winner. General performance on the track would be the 1le. I would say used zl1 but a quick check says there is none available locally. And theyre closer to 100k brand new if anyone is wondering. Not worth it

07-02-2018, 03:17 PM	#21
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,242	The people who buy Bullitt's usually do so because they're fans of the movie/McQueen, etc....they're not really about maximum performance for the buck. They more than likely know they could get more performance for less out of a SS/1LE, a GT PP2, etc..but they're not a Bullitt. Nostalgia is a funny thing

07-02-2018, 04:01 PM	#22
mcsoul Drives: Want a gen 6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 75089 Posts: 1,032	My only real problem with the Bullitt is the wheels, so ugly.

07-03-2018, 06:45 AM	#28
Godfatha Drives: 2016 2SS Mosaic Black Convertible Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 116	Taxed when you earn money. Taxed when you buy gas to go to the dealership. Taxed when you buy the car. Taxed more because the car is over a certain value. Taxes taxes taxes.

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