[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

So now we are 11.50s stock for the SS. Amazing. You are running 10s in a highly modded SS with no warranty and have more than likely lost all positive street manners. You are in a race car that happens to have a stock engine block. You have likely lost all resale value of the car. To achieve what you could have done with a stock Hellcat and a set of DRs with full warranty, congrats on your accomplishment.

Where did you dream this nonsense up?

[Snowblind]

Originally Posted by rocket403

Next summer with the 1320 Challenger on the street and people taking them to the tracks we will see how fast they run, tires will be a must with the Challenger at the track.

Challenger Demon Hellcat and Redeye are running in the 10's and the Demon with no major Mods is running 9.6's not sure what Stock Camaro with minor mods is in that class?
I will stick with the Bigger Dodge.

I think what the Dodge Marketing dept. did was clever and the 1320 "off the floor" MAY run the advertised time of 11.7 (although the Demons advertised times seem inflated in retrospect, I race at Atco alot and have yet to see a factory stock Demon click off a 9.×). The weight reduction and factory drag radials make up a big chunk of what mods could be done by John Q Public so alot of the meat was already taken off the bone to improve your times.

Rightfully so, we can't bring the Corvette into the conversation because of its "sports car" status as a 2 seater, yet the anticipated times of the 1320 are done in a 1 seat car, how do you qualify that ?

Its a great car and a great gimmick but for the racers in the know, the GT and the SS weigh less to begin with and are easier to mod and go quicker.

[KingLT1]

100% stock SS A8 down to the run flats. Right lane

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

No with a tire just like the 1320 needs. Had drag wheels and tires. Me and several others. That 1320 gonna run good on a trans brake with stock tires?

And no I’m not highly modified. Completely stock engine with bolt ons. Stock heads stock cam. My weight loss is seats pulled and light battery. One hour swap total. I have stock suspension stock gears and stock converter. I run pump fuel. I get over 20 mpg on the highway full ac heat interior etc when not at the track. I pull my seats for the track.

If I had heads and cam and went out as you speak I would be well into the 9s. As I said the Scat packs are no competition for the Camaro at the drag strip other than stock. You need to pull your head out of the magazines

Maybe you should do some research your post is nothing but fail. It’s actually very easy to run tens in a bolt on SS

I could have bought a hellcat for 60+ k and been slower than my SS I paid 30k for and have 5 k in mods lol nice thanks for the tip. Your jealousy is palpable

I have no jealousy at all you achieved a great time with your combination especially if all you have is what you stated for mods but I'm skeptical. Just as this forum is with any ridiculously fast mustang. I care about stock times not modded times where most are truth challenged.

I'm still trying to get over the 11:50s you claim stock. If I owned a A10 ZL1 I'd be pissed that the SS is as fast as me with a tire.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by rocket403

Next summer with the 1320 Challenger on the street and people taking them to the tracks we will see how fast they run, tires will be a must with the Challenger at the track.

Challenger Demon Hellcat and Redeye are running in the 10's and the Demon with no major Mods is running 9.6's not sure what Stock Camaro with minor mods is in that class?
I will stick with the Bigger Dodge.

Hey don't worry the SS is now an 11:50s car stock and can easily handle Hellcats and ZL1s, no need to worry about a lowly 1320 Challenger.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I have no jealousy at all you achieved a great time with your combination especially if all you have is what you stated for mods but I'm skeptical. Just as this forum is with any ridiculously fast mustang. I care about stock times not modded times where most are truth challenged.

I'm still trying to get over the 11:50s you claim stock. If I owned a A10 ZL1 I'd be pissed that the SS is as fast as me with a tire.

Originally Posted by newmoon

Hey don't worry the SS is now an 11:50s car stock and can easily handle Hellcats and ZL1s, no need to worry about a lowly 1320 Challenger.

why are you spreading lies and misinformation?

go back and read my post. My exact words. "mostly stock ss with drag pack"

Do you even know what a drag pack is? drag wheels and tires all around. 100lbs of rotating mass removed. Me and several other went 11.5-7 range stock with a drag pack or with minor mOd such as cai or ported TB. No tune no nothing. A guy does claim 11.5 with just a rear DR on youtube. He was at capitol in winter and dead hooked. Hero conditions. Still far fetched.

11.5 is terrible for a drag pack zl1 in good air. That should be high tens.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

why are you spreading lies and misinformation?

go back and read my post. My exact words. "mostly stock ss with drag pack"

Do you even know what a drag pack is? drag wheels and tires all around. 100lbs of rotating mass removed. Me and several other went 11.5-7 range stock with a drag pack or with minor mOd such as cai or ported TB. No tune no nothing. A guy does claim 11.5 with just a rear DR on youtube. He was at capitol in winter and dead hooked. Hero conditions. Still far fetched.

11.5 is terrible for a drag pack zl1 in good air. That should be high tens.

I do know that if there are mods the word Stock shouldn't be in the description it is misleading. A better way to phrase it would be lightly modded, correct. Either a car is modded or it is stock, there is a gray area for DRs only, but a drag pack would be modded in my book you are going beyond simple traction.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I do know that if there are mods the word Stock shouldn't be in the description it is misleading. A better way to phrase it would be lightly modded, correct. Either a car is modded or it is stock, there is a gray area for DRs only, but a drag pack would be modded in my book you are going beyond simple traction.

Funny. Dodge needs DRs to compete so those are “okey”?

Chevy offers the most capable, completely (100%) stock cars you can buy with the most comprehensive warranty to play (strip or track). A SS, ZL1 or either 1LEs, will wipe the floor with Dodge or Ford’s best in any multi dimensional competition.

Then there is the “real world” ...as the Ford boys liked to say before the realization that a 16 SS A8 was in fact a 12.0 - 12.1 car with an average driver.

[jmackisback]

Yuck, those Rustangs are hideous. Edmunds mid-high 12's was about right for those dogs. Embarassing.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I do know that if there are mods the word Stock shouldn't be in the description it is misleading. A better way to phrase it would be lightly modded, correct. Either a car is modded or it is stock, there is a gray area for DRs only, but a drag pack would be modded in my book you are going beyond simple traction.

Its not apples to apples comparing street tires to a drag radial. The 19 SS A10 traps 118 to the 1320 Challengers 115. Put a DR on the SS and its a regular Friday night at Gapplebees.

[ULTRAZLS1]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rzWTTlRRno

Bolt on stock suspension pump fuel daily driven 16SS. 10.4 in the 1/4

The challenger Scat pack is no competition. That’s why everyone keeps bringing up hellcats . And this is off of a foot brake. Better hope we don’t get trans brake support too.

I do really like Scat packs. My gf will hopefully be getting a Scat pack charger soon. But the weight, lackluster aftermarket and mediocre gains from mods put them well behind at the drag strip in anything but stock or near stock form vs the competition. I guess that’s fine and doesn’t matter much to many. But if you plan on modding a lot and racing a Camaro and I hate to say it mustang is a better choice

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rzWTTlRRno

Bolt on stock suspension pump fuel daily driven 16SS. 10.4 in the 1/4

The challenger Scat pack is no competition. That’s why everyone keeps bringing up hellcats . And this is off of a foot brake. Better hope we don’t get trans brake support too.

I do really like Scat packs. My gf will hopefully be getting a Scat pack charger soon. But the weight, lackluster aftermarket and mediocre gains from mods put them well behind at the drag strip in anything but stock or near stock form vs the competition. I guess that’s fine and doesn’t matter much to many. But if you plan on modding a lot and racing a Camaro and I hate to say it mustang is a better choice

Congratulation Snowblind.

Im surprised you guys don't have a transbrake tune yet as apparently HPtuners is who made it available for the GT. Assuming the A8 is solenoid operated can you wire in relays to make your own brake? I did this on my car and it worked but needed tuning to keep it off the limiter on the 1-2shift so I gave up on it because the car was pulling high 1.3's without it.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Congratulation Snowblind.

Im surprised you guys don't have a transbrake tune yet as apparently HPtuners is who made it available for the GT. Assuming the A8 is solenoid operated can you wire in relays to make your own brake? I did this on my car and it worked but needed tuning to keep it off the limiter on the 1-2shift so I gave up on it because the car was pulling high 1.3's without it.

Yeah I know they just got it for a10 gt. I’m hoping we do too. Couldn’t tell you the specifics as far as wiring it up... my trans and converter are still stock haven’t looked into it

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rzWTTlRRno

Bolt on stock suspension pump fuel daily driven 16SS. 10.4 in the 1/4

The challenger Scat pack is no competition. That’s why everyone keeps bringing up hellcats . And this is off of a foot brake. Better hope we don’t get trans brake support too.

I do really like Scat packs. My gf will hopefully be getting a Scat pack charger soon. But the weight, lackluster aftermarket and mediocre gains from mods put them well behind at the drag strip in anything but stock or near stock form vs the competition. I guess that’s fine and doesn’t matter much to many. But if you plan on modding a lot and racing a Camaro and I hate to say it mustang is a better choice

Scat Packs are awesome...it's the only one out of the 3 that I would consider daily driver worthy. Challenger has a real back seat and the Charger even more so...Camaro is not a good daily option which is why sales are down. I love mine but if I had to choose one vehicle, it would have to go. It won't haul the family.