08-09-2023, 09:11 PM | #1 |
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Any power gains these days with muffler swaps?
Back a number of years ago swapping out the mufflers for a.. Flowmaster or something like that would get you a lot of power. What kinds of gains are expected now for axle backs on LT1s?
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08-09-2023, 09:43 PM | #2 |
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Right about zero.
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08-09-2023, 09:53 PM | #3 |
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Yeah, the current muffler designs seem to use volume instead of restriction to dampen sound .
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08-10-2023, 06:48 AM | #4 |
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pretty nil. it's sound and looks is about it.
INtake and exhaust restrictions seem to me to be a thing of the past. YOu'd need mulitple dyno runs to see anything besides placebo/seat of the pants. |
08-10-2023, 08:17 AM | #5 |
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Yeah low single digits gain that would likely be offset by aero drag.
I’d do a ati pulley first unless you’re chasing sound
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08-10-2023, 08:44 AM | #6 |
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Nothing from a muffler swap. Significant gains from adding headers and tuning.
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08-28-2023, 06:26 PM | #7 | |
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08-29-2023, 04:30 AM | #8 |
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Yes
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08-31-2023, 06:40 PM | #9 |
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09-01-2023, 09:54 AM | #10 |
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Yes.
Just under 1mph in the 1/4. It makes the engine smooth as butter too tho That’s really priceless.
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09-01-2023, 10:08 AM | #11 |
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There was a member who tested an axle-back on an SS (MBRP Race I think it was) and he reported a gain of 5.09 rwhp. Did mention that it was loud as F*#! though.
He also tested the mentioned ATI underdrive pulley, and reported an 8.64 rwhp gain. |
09-01-2023, 10:59 AM | #12 |
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Test of axle back was here https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=591098&page=2
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09-04-2023, 02:41 PM | #13 |
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It seems that you have to do the entire exhaust to see any noticeable gains. Headers, Cats, Axle Back, ect. I did this and a E-85 tune along with a CAI and there's was a pretty decent gain. I want to do IM, Heads and Mild Cam next.
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