Are the sport & tour buttons separate from the 5 ptm settings? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

young51 · 01-08-2021, 12:44 PM

I know this has been asked to death, even by me, but are the sport and touring buttons on the console separate from the 5 modes in ptm? Do we effectively have 7 drive modes? (Touring, Sport, Wet, Dry, 3, 4, 5) or are they equivalent to the first 2 settings in PTM? (Wet & Dry) or are they just there to toggle between the settings once you are in the PTM system? Does switching between the 2 while not in the PTM system have any effect on the suspension, traction and throttle calibration?

Z28WANNAB · 01-08-2021, 01:02 PM

Great question

cdb95z28 · 01-08-2021, 01:31 PM

There aren't any modes on the Z that effect the suspension. The dampers are non electronic.

HoodCheck · 01-08-2021, 02:34 PM

It impacts traction control (when it kicks on)...I'd assume it effects throttle response and the amount of power being put out at specific RPM ranges as well, but I'm not 100% on that. Suspension isn't going to be affected whatsoever.

Zslash28 · 01-08-2021, 02:34 PM

^^^Fact.
This is a static suspension system. The buttons only affect the steering system, engine management, and traction nanny.
You can go completely off, with some back ground traction nanny.
I'm sure others may chime in, but thats a recap of what I recall reading over the past few years, and personal on track experience.

HoodCheck · 01-08-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zslash28

^^^Fact.
This is a static suspension system. The buttons only affect the steering system, engine management, and traction nanny.
You can go completely off, with some back ground traction nanny.
I'm sure others may chime in, but thats a recap of what I recall reading over the past few years, and personal on track experience.

Ah I completely forgot about the steering factor!

GeneRoss · 01-08-2021, 03:59 PM

Suspension does not get touched. Steering and traction systems get effected. Even level 5 race setting will have traction intrusiveness.

young51 · 01-08-2021, 04:02 PM

Understood on the suspension part but are they 2 additional settings separate from the ptm? When I first start my car the "touring" button lights up. Nothing shows that in the dash however. I can hit the "sport" button and it will light, again with nothing indicating on the dash. So are those 2 separate settings from the 5 in the ptm? If so then what do they do?

SIM GhostrdrZ · 01-08-2021, 04:33 PM

This is from GM.

MX621 · 01-08-2021, 05:51 PM

With ptm off, tour and sport only change the steering weight.

69L48Z27 · 01-08-2021, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MX621

With ptm off, tour and sport only change the steering weight.

Do they? I think that’s been the debate. Have you found documentation to support that or is it Internet forum stuff? That’s what I’ve heard too but I never found a way to validate it and I’ve toggled between the two and I can’t feel any difference.

young51 · 01-08-2021, 07:36 PM

69L48Z27, that's exactly my question as well. Do those buttons really do anything or are they just to toggle between the 5 PTM modes? My car always defaults to "Touring" when first started. Is that the same across the board?

69L48Z27 · 01-08-2021, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by young51

69L48Z27, that's exactly my question as well. Do those buttons really do anything or are they just to toggle between the 5 PTM modes? My car always defaults to "Touring" when first started. Is that the same across the board?

I’m pretty sure mine stays in sport if I leave it in sport. I’ll have to check the next time I get in it.

SIM GhostrdrZ · 01-09-2021, 09:17 AM

I need to spend more time in my Z come spring/summer. But the way I understand it is you have tour or sport( 5 modes). Or, is it tour, sport and then 5 modes of PTM? I think that’s the op question as well so I’m just restating it. I would think that the docs would define sport mode if it was a separate mode.
I leave mine in tour, but I think it stays in the last selected mode. At least it doesn’t do as my wife’s trail hawk and shutoff the engine at stop lights( annoys the crap out of her).
So who’s on second?

01-08-2021, 12:44 PM	#1
young51 Drives: 2015 z/28 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Bay Area Posts: 39	Are the sport & tour buttons separate from the 5 ptm settings? I know this has been asked to death, even by me, but are the sport and touring buttons on the console separate from the 5 modes in ptm? Do we effectively have 7 drive modes? (Touring, Sport, Wet, Dry, 3, 4, 5) or are they equivalent to the first 2 settings in PTM? (Wet & Dry) or are they just there to toggle between the settings once you are in the PTM system? Does switching between the 2 while not in the PTM system have any effect on the suspension, traction and throttle calibration?

01-08-2021, 01:02 PM	#2
Z28WANNAB Drives: 2014 Z28 CTF AGM Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 46	Great question __________________ 2014 Z28 CTF AGM #99066 69 Z11 Convertable 4 spd - now has 496 w 6 spd, other minor suspension upgrades Owned since '78 Formerly owned 2013 ZL1, miss it 2000 XKR

01-08-2021, 01:31 PM	#3
cdb95z28 Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Johnstown, PA Posts: 3,200	There aren't any modes on the Z that effect the suspension. The dampers are non electronic. __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR2014 1SS 1LE NPP RECARO SIM-SOLD1995 Z28 M6 GSC PGM-SOLD1975 NOVA COUPE 300HP 350 TH350 FLASH RED-SOLD

01-08-2021, 02:34 PM	#5
Zslash28 Jumanji Drives: '14 Z/28 - AGM - No A/C Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,688	^^^Fact. This is a static suspension system. The buttons only affect the steering system, engine management, and traction nanny. You can go completely off, with some back ground traction nanny. I'm sure others may chime in, but thats a recap of what I recall reading over the past few years, and personal on track experience. __________________ Keeper of the 5th Gen Z/28 Registry. Registry Facebook. Follow: @5th_gen_z28_registry I track wrecked Z/28s Total lost -41

01-08-2021, 03:59 PM	#7
GeneRoss Drives: 14 Z/28 #368 02 SS(sold) 2012 Equus Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 184	Suspension does not get touched. Steering and traction systems get effected. Even level 5 race setting will have traction intrusiveness. __________________ 2014 Z/28 #368

01-08-2021, 02:34 PM	#4
HoodCheck Drives: 2018 ZLE (M6/hyper blue) Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lithia, FL Posts: 762	It impacts traction control (when it kicks on)...I'd assume it effects throttle response and the amount of power being put out at specific RPM ranges as well, but I'm not 100% on that. Suspension isn't going to be affected whatsoever.

01-08-2021, 04:02 PM	#8
young51 Drives: 2015 z/28 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Bay Area Posts: 39	Understood on the suspension part but are they 2 additional settings separate from the ptm? When I first start my car the "touring" button lights up. Nothing shows that in the dash however. I can hit the "sport" button and it will light, again with nothing indicating on the dash. So are those 2 separate settings from the 5 in the ptm? If so then what do they do?

01-08-2021, 04:33 PM	#9
SIM GhostrdrZ Drives: ‘14 Z/28 ‘14 ZL1 M6 vert Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,283 View My Garage	This is from GM. Attached Images

01-08-2021, 05:51 PM	#10
MX621 Drives: 2014 z28 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: DE Posts: 171	With ptm off, tour and sport only change the steering weight.

01-08-2021, 07:36 PM	#12
young51 Drives: 2015 z/28 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Bay Area Posts: 39	69L48Z27, that's exactly my question as well. Do those buttons really do anything or are they just to toggle between the 5 PTM modes? My car always defaults to "Touring" when first started. Is that the same across the board?

01-09-2021, 09:17 AM	#14
SIM GhostrdrZ Drives: ‘14 Z/28 ‘14 ZL1 M6 vert Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,283 View My Garage	I need to spend more time in my Z come spring/summer. But the way I understand it is you have tour or sport( 5 modes). Or, is it tour, sport and then 5 modes of PTM? I think that’s the op question as well so I’m just restating it. I would think that the docs would define sport mode if it was a separate mode. I leave mine in tour, but I think it stays in the last selected mode. At least it doesn’t do as my wife’s trail hawk and shutoff the engine at stop lights( annoys the crap out of her). So who’s on second?