My 2011 v6 m6 VS my dads 2011 challenger rt

[wbt]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Told yall that he was delusional.

If you want delusional look at the quote in my sig. You are all talk with hot air to back it up with.

When you have experience to stake a claim with then bring it. Otherwise your credibility will remain in the toilet.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by wbt

If you want delusional look at the quote in my sig. You are all talk with hot air to back it up with.

When you have experience to stake a claim with then bring it. Otherwise your credibility will remain in the toilet.

Go over to challenger talk and find me one R/T that has hit mid 12s without F/I or a cam (and if you can it's obviously a miracle run). Oh and again buddy, let's just remember the fact you can't read or recognize context clues; it's not my fault you're delusional and continue to think that the R/T is god since you bought one. Finally, let's be honest... do you think that YOU have any credibility on anything?

Originally Posted by ChallengerTalk

1: 12.075 @ 117.96mph desant89 09SRT8 Auto 6.1L magna charger-7psi SB ST
2: 12.082 @ 113.91mph HEMI RT 09 2009 shorty headers tune 75 shot
3: 12.108 @ 114.39 HEM1MAN 10 SRT 426 stroker Auto Heads cam tune DR
4: 12.1492 @ 117.10mph s1nst3r 10SRT9 6sp 6.1L twin turbos-11psi DR
5: 12.204 @ 117.16mph toofart 09R/T 6sp 5.7L magna charger-7psi SB DR
6: 12.247 @ 114.88mph Flat Top 09R/T Auto V3 6psi SB DR
7: 12.264 @ 110.53mph Mark-KTM-200EXC 09R/T 6sp 5.7L D1 Procharger-8psi SB DR
8: 12.319 @ 111.74mph 03HDFB 09SRT8 Auto 6.1L SB DR
9: 12.334 @ 112.10mph demonbydesign 10SRT8 Auto 6.1L SB DR
10: 12.348 @ 111.94mph Iron6 10R/T Auto 5.7L Vortec V-3 7psi SB DR
11: 12.355 @ 115.33mph Bama Challenger 6.1 KB2.8@9psi street tires
12: 12.360 @ 112.78mph cosmer 10R/T 125 shot 6speed
13: 12.373 @ 113.10mph SRT8Tech 11 SRT Auto Stock
14: 12.391 @ 114.00mph plumKrazy 10R/T 6sp 5.7L Vortec V-3 7psi SB DR
15: 12.450 @ 107.64mph Chris 1992 09R/T Auto 5.7L SB DR
16: 12.467 @ 107.09mph Kbr577 09R/T Auto 5.7L SB DR
17: 12.505 @ 107.34mph dark side 09R/T Auto 5.7L SB DR
18: 12.618 @ 108.35 SoCalRT 10R/T 6sp 5.7L magna charger DR
19: 12.636 @ 113.31mph jziminsky 09R/T 6sp 2.9whipple 10psi SB DR
20: 12.640 @ 110.69mph KyHemiSRT 11 SRT Stock
21: 12.650 @ 110.44mph bskylerj 11 SRT Auto
22: 12.664 @ 109.22mph 21SRT8 09SRT8 6sp 6.1L SHC DR
23: 12.666 @ 109.87mph ptsd 09SRT8 Auto 6.1L SB
24: 12.668 @ 109.06mph 010r/t 10R/T 6sp 5.7L SB DR
25: 12.680 @ 106.58mph Jack09 09R/T Auto 5.7L SB DR
26: 12.714 @ xxx.xxMPH LURCH messed up mph on time slip
27: 12.718 @108.642mph DragCad Racing 09/SRT Auto SB DR
28: 12.722 @ 110.24mph DadsToy 11SRT Auto stock
29: 12.740 @ 109.72mph 09Vanishing 09R/T Auto 5.7L SB Procharger-7psi
30: 12.769 @ 113.35mph hemi420 11 SRT M6 stock
31: 12.805 @ 109.05mph CrankCase 11 SRT M6 Stock
32: 12.809 @ 109.57mph Trixie 10SRT8 Auto 6.1L SB DR
33: 12.818 @ 110.79mph SparkChicken 11 SRT Auto
34: 12.820 @ 117.61mph Speedy 09R/T 6sp 6.0L magna charger-14psi FS ST
35: 12.824 @ 109.59mph deacon 09SRT8 Auto 6.1L SB
36: 12.844 @ 106.65mph MCSChallenger 10 SE 3.5 V6 Turbo
37: 12.893 @ 106.34mph mexi 10R/T Auto Modified
38: 12.911 @ 110.33mph Go3dsRodsHEMI 11 SRT Auto Stock
39: 12.936 @ 105.15mph Stricnine 09R/T 6sp 5.7L SB DR
40: 12.944 @ 108.93 mph 555ss 11 SRT M6 Stock
41: 12.944 @ 107.92mph hemirider337 10SRT8 Auto 6.1L SB
42: 12.960 @ 103.71mph rozwell1 5.7 R/T Auto
43: 12.983 @ 106.18mph RonP 10R/T Auto 5.7L SB
44: 12.975 @ 108.89mph Jelsis 10SRT Auto Stock
45: 12.977 @ 105.79mph bohica 10R/T Auto 5.7L SB
46: 12.981 @ 106.59mph Galvatron

[mjf6866]

Challengertalk is so unorganized with their fastest lists. I do know that Chris1992 was able to attain 12's with 275/50-17 m&h racemasters, k&n filter and a cat back.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Go over to challenger talk and find me one R/T that has hit mid 12s without F/I or a cam (and if you can it's obviously a miracle run). Oh and again buddy, let's just remember the fact you can't read or recognize context clues; it's not my fault you're delusional and continue to think that the R/T is god since you bought one. Finally, let's be honest... do you think that YOU have any credibility on anything?

I don't participate there and have no plans to. I have found that most Challenger owners are much like most Camaro owners. They are generally inexperienced at planning the proper combination of parts and inexperienced at the track. I.E. not running the right gear, tires, no idea how to launch, etc...

I have seen first hand how this plays out across different makes/models. I've said this to you before and have posted proof (which you then took aim at fellow Camaro owners for not being able to drive) that my stock Challenger run was just as quick as the Camaro SS (auto and manual) at our track. You like to take proof and twist it around to your fit in your fantasy world.

I have been doing this for 20+ years, do all my own work and drive my cars at the track, I know how to put a combination together that works and I can guarantee you I know more about going down the 1320 than yourself.

If you have such credentials then post up some proof. Time and time again I have shown my results and documented proof to backup what I say. I have yet to see the same from yourself.

My photobucket:
http://s632.photobucket.com/home/wbthurber

My youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/wbthurber

Show all of us what you have to offer other than BS.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by wbt

I don't participate there and have no plans to. I have found that most Challenger owners are much like most Camaro owners. They are generally inexperienced at planning the proper combination of parts and inexperienced at the track. I.E. not running the right gear, tires, no idea how to launch, etc...

I have seen first hand how this plays out across different makes/models. I've said this to you before and have posted proof (which you then took aim at fellow Camaro owners for not being able to drive) that my stock Challenger run was just as quick as the Camaro SS (auto and manual) at our track. You like to take proof and twist it around to your fit in your fantasy world.

I'm sorry, but proof is not the anecdotes you rely on. I.e., proof isn't saying, "I run 13.4s in my stock R/T and these SSs run mid 13s at my track." The keyword there is your track; the reality is that the R/T somewhere around a 13.7 car on average when taken into consideration the other tracks (and other drivers) that exist that you seem to be oblivious to. Of course, you too just called out your "fellow challenger owners" by implying that YOU'RE obviously the only person who can get the most out of the R/T. I mean, YOU'RE the person who knows all the right tire/wheel combinations, best gears, best full exhaust setup, etc., right? The only thing I'm seeing here is an overinflated ego.

Anyway, that list, although very disorganized, shows that it is best described as a hero run for a bolt-on, drag radial R/T to see mid 12s, unlike the Camaro's situation. So, that simply makes your claim that the R/T is only a few bolt-ons a way from matching the SS stupid.

I have been doing this for 20+ years, do all my own work and drive my cars at the track, I know how to put a combination together that works and I can guarantee you I know more about going down the 1320 than yourself.

If you have such credentials then post up some proof. Time and time again I have shown my results and documented proof to backup what I say. I have yet to see the same from yourself.

My photobucket:
http://s632.photobucket.com/home/wbthurber

My youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/wbthurber

Show all of us what you have to offer other than BS.

Let me get this straight... credentials is showing pictures of headers on your photobucket? I'm not here to argue rather or not you're a good driver or your ability to put a car together. I'm arguing against the claim that the R/T somehow transcends reality and is a mid 13 car in the hands of any driver at any track.

[big hammer]

this reminds me of when mustang guys were trying to claim that the 4.6 was as fast as the 5th gen.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by wbt

I don't participate there and have no plans to. I have found that most Challenger owners are much like most Camaro owners. They are generally inexperienced at planning the proper combination of parts and inexperienced at the track. I.E. not running the right gear, tires, no idea how to launch, etc...

lol

ummm...I think you need to rephrase that to say "I have found that most people just generally don't know the proper race setup..."

Because when you put it that way you make it sound like you just said Challenger and Camaro owners really are just a bunch of posers that bought a potentially fast car, but they all suck at really knowing what to do with them.

By the way...it all does make you sound like you have a bit of an over inflated ego. Your not the only one here that can run a car down the strip.

[Supermaro585HP]

Thank god I have V8 because I would be pissed if my girlfriend didn't have a *****. LOL Good one.

[mjf6866]

ive said it before and i'll say it again...these r/t discussions really strike nerves!

[wbt]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I'm sorry, but proof is not the anecdotes you rely on. I.e., proof isn't saying, "I run 13.4s in my stock R/T and these SSs run mid 13s at my track." The keyword there is your track; the reality is that the R/T somewhere around a 13.7 car on average when taken into consideration the other tracks (and other drivers) that exist that you seem to be oblivious to. Of course, you too just called out your "fellow challenger owners" by implying that YOU'RE obviously the only person who can get the most out of the R/T. I mean, YOU'RE the person who knows all the right tire/wheel combinations, best gears, best full exhaust setup, etc., right? The only thing I'm seeing here is an overinflated ego.

Anyway, that list, although very disorganized, shows that it is best described as a hero run for a bolt-on, drag radial R/T to see mid 12s, unlike the Camaro's situation. So, that simply makes your claim that the R/T is only a few bolt-ons a way from matching the SS stupid.



Let me get this straight... credentials is showing pictures of headers on your photobucket? I'm not here to argue rather or not you're a good driver or your ability to put a car together. I'm arguing against the claim that the R/T somehow transcends reality and is a mid 13 car in the hands of any driver at any track.

Yes I am comparing the average Challenger owner to the average Camaro owner in that the majority of the owners bought their cars for show vs. go and have very similar racing experience (little to none). Glad you comprehended that.

I have presented results for each car at the same track. No different than comparing different cars on the same dyno. With your logic, you would rather compare a car on a track in the NE vs. a track in the south. Your logic is flawed and you refuse to see it.

Same ole' broken record...

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

lol

ummm...I think you need to rephrase that to say "I have found that most people just generally don't know the proper race setup..."

Because when you put it that way you make it sound like you just said Challenger and Camaro owners really are just a bunch of posers that bought a potentially fast car, but they all suck at really knowing what to do with them.

By the way...it all does make you sound like you have a bit of an over inflated ego. Your not the only one here that can run a car down the strip.

The majority of them are. Same goes for some of the Mustang community. They build dyno queens with huge HP numbers and can't get out of the 12's at the strip. No doubt there are car owners of different makes and models that know how to make it down the strip effectively.

The issue I have is the bullshit a_Username likes to post without anything to back it up. I continue to call him out on it yet haven't seen him provide anything to back his opinion up with. He is a master at dodging the question in every thread he wants to spark up a debate with me in. Basically his resume is empty until he comes to the table with something. Still waiting.....

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

V8 > V6... sorry, i know you guys have your LLT thing and we wouldn't understand but it's a torque thing, which some of you don't understand. Don't get all sad about it. It's just life. The R/T has you, plus auto is faster/better for the track. Easier to launch.

Not necessary, if you're tuned by Trifecta get the E85 tune and run on that. Everyone that's running on E85 is in the mid 13's. If you can get the time that the others are then it would be a drivers race. But as it stands now the Challenger will win 9 out of 10 times.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by formare

When did the RT start hitting 13s. When last I had one is was a high 14 car. Maybe with a tune and and an intake it would be in the 13s. I was just a a TNT with 80+ temps and an SRT was doing low 14s.

Since it came out, don't confuse a crappy driver's ability with the cars ability.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I'm sorry, but proof is not the anecdotes you rely on. I.e., proof isn't saying, "I run 13.4s in my stock R/T and these SSs run mid 13s at my track." The keyword there is your track; the reality is that the R/T somewhere around a 13.7 car on average when taken into consideration the other tracks (and other drivers) that exist that you seem to be oblivious to. Of course, you too just called out your "fellow challenger owners" by implying that YOU'RE obviously the only person who can get the most out of the R/T. I mean, YOU'RE the person who knows all the right tire/wheel combinations, best gears, best full exhaust setup, etc., right? The only thing I'm seeing here is an overinflated ego.

Anyway, that list, although very disorganized, shows that it is best described as a hero run for a bolt-on, drag radial R/T to see mid 12s, unlike the Camaro's situation. So, that simply makes your claim that the R/T is only a few bolt-ons a way from matching the SS stupid.



Let me get this straight... credentials is showing pictures of headers on your photobucket? I'm not here to argue rather or not you're a good driver or your ability to put a car together. I'm arguing against the claim that the R/T somehow transcends reality and is a mid 13 car in the hands of any driver at any track.

if you take time to read through signatures there are tons of stock 13.2-13.4 Challenger R/Ts, also tons running in the 12s with very minimal mods.

[ViperTomcat]

In May of 2010 I ran my 2010 Challenger R/T on the stock street tires and just a K&N Air Intake, no tune, no exhaust mods, no nothing and around a half tank of fuel, roughly 4000 lbs curb weight.

At just after six PM on a friday that may I ran a 13.266 @ 104.87 MPH unadjusted for altitude (time slip is in my sig) in just about 1700 foot air IIRC. Not great air, no major mods, just a K&N intake.

Take that as you will, the majority of my runs at that track in the crappy Southern Oregon air (2000+ foot DA usually) were 13.3, .4's and .5's. I wont make any claims of that versus anyone, I am simply offering that as a sample RT with a very minor mod running a set of times.

I miss that car :(