Camaro ls3 vs mustang 5.0

[ViperTomcat]

The auto 5.0's become utterly and completely different animals when given a proper tune that takes advantages of bolt ons. A month ago a guy brought a fairly new, stock 2011 5.0 auto to our local track. He ran a 12.9 @ 112 MPH.

Last week he brough it back, with LT's, a tune, intake and street DOT drag tires and ran a 12.23 @ 116 MPH.

Thats how much an auto 5.0 wakes up when taken care of.

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

The auto 5.0's become utterly and completely different animals when given a proper tune that takes advantages of bolt ons. A month ago a guy brought a fairly new, stock 2011 5.0 auto to our local track. He ran a 12.9 @ 112 MPH.

Last week he brough it back, with LT's, a tune, intake and street DOT drag tires and ran a 12.23 @ 116 MPH. Thats how much an auto 5.0 wakes up when taken care of.

thats what im trying to say! look what he had to add to pick up 6/10ths.

so how would a tune alone pick up 7/10ths?

[Darkstar November]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

thats what im trying to say! look what he had to add to pick up 6/10ths.

so how would a tune alone pick up 7/10ths?

real life. i went from 12.7x stock, to 12.5's and 111 to 114 traps with a tune on my car otherwise stock on stock tires

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

thats what im trying to say! look what he had to add to pick up 6/10ths.

so how would a tune alone pick up 7/10ths?

no clue, I didnt get into that argument.

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by John@Torq

real life. i went from 12.7x stock, to 12.5's and 111 to 114 traps with a tune on my car otherwise stock on stock tires

that sounds more like it!

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by BigDan

The .7 gain was on an auto equipped car and as many of you members know the factory puts limitations on power output especially in the lower gear like torque management, soft rev limiter's that close the TB 500 rpm early, slow shifting, ect. It didnt gain 70 peak hp but I bet it the tune picked up about 50hp in the mid range of the lower gears.

A custom dyno tune on an auto could easily pick up .7 in the 1/4 mile once you delete all the factory nanny's limiting power and then go to work with all the cam timing adjustments and raise the redline to 7,300rpm.

There is way more to a tune the peak numbers and I dont see why a L99 couldn't do the same with a dyno tune.

that i'm aware of, i don't think an L99 could pick up that much with a tune. i'm not disagreeing one bit that the new mustangs run good numbers, lets just be real though.


BTW, here is the unofficial stock camaro list. i don't find it strange are out of the ordinary that the mustang runs in the 12's stock, big deal, so does the camaro




Stock

1
nhra stocker
LS3
12.43 @ 112. 02 MPH
corrected 1395 ft.
9

2
2quick
LS3
12.61 @ 111.60 MPH

188

3
blufin
LS3
12.618 @ 110.75 MPH

780

4
8secpumpgasdad
L99
12.67 @ 110.36 MPH
corrected 1371 ft.
270

5
02pewtersix
LS3
12.71 @ 111.80 MPH

672

6
Bowtie Guy Z28
LS3
12.73 @ 113.0 MPH
corrected 9085 ft.


7
Vincewalters
LS3
12.77 @ 113.05 MPH
corrected 6794 ft.
615

8
Monte
LS3
12.77 @ 110.98 MPH

410

9
mr anderson
LS3
12.81 @ 112.16 MPH
Corrected 2396 ft.
582

10
b20
LS3
12.81 @ 108.73 MPH

[blufin]

Originally Posted by Cleantis

Quickest stock auto 2011 GT = 12.37
Quickest stock manual GT with 3.73's = 12.22

Are these times with the stock tires or stickies?

[wbt]

Just when I thought we were making progress with these discussions....

Some people choose to believe what they want regardless of information provided.

I saw the owner run their car before and after we tuned it. Makes me kinda wish we ran video that night. Hell, even that would be questioned by some non-believers here.

That's fine. I have backed everything I have claimed here and have nothing to hide and no agenda outside of correcting some of the information presented.

Hope to see more Camaro's at the track so those owners can back their statements up as well.

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by blufin

Are these times with the stock tires or stickies?

no way in hell thats stock tires, if thats even true

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by wbt

I saw the owner run their car before and after we tuned it. Makes me kinda wish we ran video that night. Hell, even that would be questioned by some non-believers here.

no pics or vid, it didn't happen. sorry, its the law of the Internet

[wbt]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

no pics or vid, it didn't happen. sorry, its the law of the Internet

Lol! When you guys post without a time slip or video it is OK and accepted without critique?

I call that out too. If it was my car you would have time slips at minimum.

Just to add more, said owner since went a 12.87@112 at the same track, this past Friday, 8/12. Same mods as before....tune and mufflers.

Wished you lived closer as I would love to meet you at the track. We make believers every time we go out.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

no way in hell thats stock tires, if thats even true

Yes those are stock tires.

Here is a stock 5.0 with nothing but slicks:


Same track we tuned the car that picked up .7 and now more.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

no pics or vid, it didn't happen. sorry, its the law of the Internet

I love your corrected ET list you posted.

I didn't know corrected ET's are now all the rage since nobody at the track has ever came up to me and asked me what my corrected ET was because who effin care's since it doesn't go up in lights on the board or printed on your slip. I've never even seen it been calculated when cars are reviewed by the mags.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by BigDan

I love your corrected ET list you posted.

I didn't know corrected ET's are now all the rage since nobody at the track has ever came up to me and asked me what my corrected ET was because who effin care's since it doesn't go up in lights on the board or printed on your slip. I've never even seen it been calculated when cars are reviewed by the mags.

Correcting for DA is OK but not when one is posting on a fast/record list. My 11.63@118 run corrects to a 11.29@121. There is always a % of error with correction as well. I like to see the "real" numbers too.

Those who run in -DA never post their corrected numbers. Wonder why?