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Old 11-20-2020, 11:10 PM   #57
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Ah yes, good point!

And good to know! Thanks

They also offer a rear Toe lockout kit that apparently stops the alignment from getting out of whack and causing premature tire wear
My pleasure! The rear toe kit is proly worth getting.
Speaking of tire wear: increased caster can cause it, due to delayed responses (on the front of course). Cheers!
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:19 PM   #58
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I have Vorshlag camber plates and run -3* in the front. There are two caster settings on the plates, Stock (7.2* measured on mine) and more(measured 9.2* on my car). so it seems that it's a 2* difference.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:25 AM   #59
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I have Vorshlag camber plates and run -3* in the front. There are two caster settings on the plates, Stock (7.2* measured on mine) and more(measured 9.2* on my car). so it seems that it's a 2* difference.
The plates make sense for those that cant get enough camber from stock bolts. But, i could get 2.9 out of mine, yet prefer 2.6 for tire wear. Even at that setting they cord first on the inside. Maybe slicks would need a bit more, but i dont run them.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:32 AM   #60
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thats the only spl part i have so far but will be getting more in future!
Just curious: you will be getting more parts for WHAT purpose exactly?
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:05 AM   #61
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We agree on most of that, but I don't understand why you are saying Chevy does not see the need to adjust anything due to ride height.



Interesting, I'd like to know as well.
I'm quoting what the guy from SPL said, so I can't comment on whether or not he is right. My track has 19 turns in a 1 minute and 20 second lap so it is corner heavy and technical.

This could all be a waste of money but only one thing is for sure, he definitely wants mine!
Everybody wants our money. All the time. And especially if they sense we may not clearly understand causes and effects

What exactly are you trying to fix handling wise? You knocked off a tremendous 3 seconds of your laptime with stickier tires and improved driving alone. Given your track config, i would not do anything that - even remotely:
1) reduces responsiveness of the car
2) increases tire wear

Remember, fix has to be based on what a driver feels, not what some guy tells you, that sells parts. I suspect if he sold shocks he would insist you swap those as well, to match the springs. Etc, etc. If you start listening to others vs yourself, the list will be infinite and your car at an ever changing state of flux. And eventually you may start taking parts out, because it doesnt feel right anymore.

If you want more camber, just get camber plates! Those and rear toe lock out make sense. However, if ya run 2.5 and 2.0, adjust up based on YOUR tire wear and do it in small increments (on the front, obviously) lest you can ruin a pair of F tires in a day (ive seen it done first hand). More is not always better. It all depends on a venue, driving style, tire, etc. So, thats another thing YOU must pay attention to as a driver and adjust accordingly. Not "some guy" that has never driven your car and/or your track.

Bottom line: it is your wallet. But even if ya have plenty of spare cash burning a hole in it, spend it wisely and spend it on items that will give ya best return on investment.
My cents anyway. Cheers!
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:30 AM   #62
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GMG, i had mentioned this before: if i were you and since laptimes are your obvious focus, i would seriously consider ZLE DSSV suspension (on sale now, see link).

This would lower your car, give you many benefits of coilovers design and Trans Am tested racing solution from one of the top shelf pro racing houses on the planet. Zero guessing here.

Sure, your DD ride quality would suffer, but then again id imagine tons of ZLEs never see a race track and folks do street those cars successfully.

Not only this, but this would position you perfectly for another future go faster mod: aero (which requires much stiffer springs and shocks to go with them).

For the price of all the parts that you are being recommended to purchase (more or less), you can do a wholesale, complete and proven suspension upgrade designed for the car. Plus position for the future. Food for thought.

https://www.gmperformancemotor.com/parts/84352121.html
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Old 11-22-2020, 03:45 AM   #63
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Just curious: you will be getting more parts for WHAT purpose exactly?
Their swaybar links would also be a good purchase
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:41 AM   #64
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Their swaybar links would also be a good purchase
What would they achieve over stock? Thanks!
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The plates make sense for those that cant get enough camber from stock bolts. But, i could get 2.9 out of mine, yet prefer 2.6 for tire wear. Even at that setting they cord first on the inside. Maybe slicks would need a bit more, but i dont run them.
I知 running 305/19 and will soon be moving to 315 or 335/18s so the added clearance to the strut from camber plates is beneficial. I also use the car primarily for autocross and even at -3* I知 wearing the outside more than the inside of the tire. I check tire temps when I知 at Willow Springs and with the fast, high load corners, -3* comes close to even temps with the Supercar 3 tires.
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:36 AM   #66
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What would they achieve over stock? Thanks!
Well, the whole purpose of adjustable end links is so that you can remove stab bar preload when at rest. The benefit is equal roll resistance when cornering. If you happen to have adjustable coil overs, it also makes corner balancing easier.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:04 AM   #67
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I知 running 305/19 and will soon be moving to 315 or 335/18s so the added clearance to the strut from camber plates is beneficial. I also use the car primarily for autocross and even at -3* I知 wearing the outside more than the inside of the tire. I check tire temps when I知 at Willow Springs and with the fast, high load corners, -3* comes close to even temps with the Supercar 3 tires.
Agree. Camber plates make perfect sense if increased camber makes a difference based on a venue/driver. That was my key point as well (over revised lower control arms somehow being a "must have" item).

I too run high load tracks and personally 2.6F works great for me. Having said that, i also run a stock G3 tire.

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Old 11-22-2020, 11:07 AM   #68
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Well, the whole purpose of adjustable end links is so that you can remove stab bar preload when at rest. The benefit is equal roll resistance when cornering. If you happen to have adjustable coil overs, it also makes corner balancing easier.
Ya, we did it on my C5Z and frankly i could not feel any difference, nor my laps improved any, nor my tire wear, but my wallet got lighter

Agree re corner balancing, but none of the cars being discussed here have coilovers so it is a moot point.

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SPL just went live with their Black Friday 20% off and free shipping! I ordered toe Links with eccentric lock out.
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SPL just went live with their Black Friday 20% off and free shipping! I ordered toe Links with eccentric lock out.
Thanks! If you dont mind me asking: how much are these?
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