[carguy55]

https://timetrials.scca.com/pages/national-tour

Updated Jan 12, 2021

March 12-14: VIRginia International Raceway, Alton, VA
April 9-11: Buttonwillow Raceway Park, Buttonwillow, CA
May 21-23: Eagles Canyon Raceway, Decatur, TX
June 10-13: Tire Rack Time Trials Nationals, NCM Motorsports Park, Bowling Green, KY
July 2-4: Palmer Motorsports Park, Palmer, MA
July 16-18: GingerMan Raceway, South Haven, MI
July 23-25: Ridge Motorsports Park, Shelton, WA
August 27–29: Pittsburgh International Race Complex
November 5-7: Michelin Raceway Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA (tentative)

Previously announced Global Time Attack Sanctioned by SCCA Pro Racing Events:

November 14-15, 2020: Buttonwillow Raceway Park, Buttonwillow, CA
March 6-7: Super Lap Battle COTA, Circuit of the Americas, Austin, TX
April 3-4: Ridge Motorsports Park, Shelton, WA
April 10-11: Buttonwillow Raceway Park, Buttonwillow, CA
May 7-8: Michelin Raceway Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA
July 3-4: Palmer Motorsports Park, Palmer, MA
July 24-25: Ridge Motorsports Park, Shelton, WA

[Badmojo]

I'm not a fan of this schedule. I'm very disappointed that Carolina Motorsports Park is off the schedule.

[AustinTXracer]

Definitely planning on ECR 5/22-23.

[apexit53]

global time attack rules are dumb. Was interested till spec tire and limited size is on there. nope! :p

edit,

time trial rules... no stock class lol. I know the scca is working on it but autocross and time trial classes don't work together.

Could run my stock car but what would be the point? other than going out and having fun.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by Badmojo

I'm not a fan of this schedule. I'm very disappointed that Carolina Motorsports Park is off the schedule.

Now you know how I feel since they removed Pitt Race this year. Closest event for me is now Gingerman at a mere 7.5 hours away.

Originally Posted by apexit53

global time attack rules are dumb. Was interested till spec tire and limited size is on there. nope! :p

edit,

time trial rules... no stock class lol. I know the scca is working on it but autocross and time trial classes don't work together.

Could run my stock car but what would be the point? other than going out and having fun.

Sport Class is basically stock class. Your car is one of the top cars for Sport 2.

I have to run my car in freaking MAX 1 because it is a supercharged SS. If you want to talk about pointless, there's your definition.

[apexit53]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Now you know how I feel since they removed Pitt Race this year. Closest event for me is now Gingerman at a mere 7.5 hours away.


Sport Class is basically stock class. Your car is one of the top cars for Sport 2.

I have to run my car in freaking MAX 1 because it is a supercharged SS. If you want to talk about pointless, there's your definition.

I just mean with the allowed mods, i cant mod it from one class to the other legally. nor would i want someone in my autoX class to think i have an ecu mod.. if that makes sense. Still might try it.

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by apexit53

I just mean with the allowed mods, i cant mod it from one class to the other legally. nor would i want someone in my autoX class to think i have an ecu mod.. if that makes sense. Still might try it.

FWIW, I don't think the eLSD reflash from GM is supposed to be a benefit on most road courses. It's really targeted to autocross use as I understand it. So it would be believable that you didn't install it. Of course, if someone really wants to protest at a national autocross, then they can put up their money. But that's always going to be the case.

[carguy55]

Originally Posted by AustinTXracer

Definitely planning on ECR 5/22-23.

I'm thinking the same thing. Last year was in June.

[Ummpwr]

Definitely disappointed cmp with new pavement and all is not on the list.

[travislambert]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Now you know how I feel since they removed Pitt Race this year...

It might be a blessing in disguise. SCCA classing needs a lot of work, and their lack of rules enforcement is a real source of frustration. I believe the people organizing the events are well intentioned, but from a serious participant's perspective, there is a lot of room for improvement.

[Badmojo]

Originally Posted by travislambert

It might be a blessing in disguise. SCCA classing needs a lot of work, and their lack of rules enforcement is a real source of frustration. I believe the people organizing the events are well intentioned, but from a serious participant's perspective, there is a lot of room for improvement.

The rules and classing worked well under the concept of "Track Night with Transponders," but I agree that it doesn't translate to a solid competitive program with 15+ cars in certain classes with less than a tenth of a second between competitors.


I also agree that having 150 pages of rules, but essentially self-enforcement isn't a good basis for fair competition.


I enjoyed running a Time Trial with NASA SE a few weeks ago:
1. The classification by HP/Weight generated some good competition.
2. The drivers had a higher level of experience on average.
3. You can run Hoosiers, Goodyear 3R's, or slicks without being kicked into the unlimited class.
4. Curb weight was measured at least once a day and the certified dyno testing is an ok way to class. I'm sure if you wanted to "game" the dyno you could. Some of the cars were detuned for a flat power curve.
5. There were fewer drivers, which is a mixed deal, there were only four cars in TT2.
6. The Time Trial is a season with a winner for the class at the end of the season. Non-covid schedules have an event each month.
7. I didn't like that each day was it's own Time Trial with only the fastest lap counting each day. This made the afternoon sessions almost pointless.
8. The NASA people and SCCA people throw out incorrect stereotypes about the members. I think both groups are awesome people-wise.

[TheRealJA105]

@Badmojo did you have to go through the different HPDE levels in NASA and then a check out ride? Or were you able to jump right into TT by giving them a driver resume and your SCCA TT license?

[IntegraR0064]

Originally Posted by apexit53

I just mean with the allowed mods, i cant mod it from one class to the other legally. nor would i want someone in my autoX class to think i have an ecu mod.. if that makes sense. Still might try it.

I'm confused what you're saying here, nobody will think you have an ECU tune just because you run time trials. I won NJMP in sport 2 last year with nationally competitive people in my class and my car is 100% stock, people aren't building the max to the class like they do in autocross. Lots of people cross over from autocross stock classes and none of them tune the ECU. SCCA TT is a very laid back program which is what makes it work.

Also it was a lot of fun, definitely recommend it.

Anyway, I'm disappointed there aren't really any northeast tracks but I am planning to do VIR and maybe make it out to TT nats this year. Maybe consider doing one of the road atlanta's.

[Badmojo]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

@Badmojo did you have to go through the different HPDE levels in NASA and then a check out ride? Or were you able to jump right into TT by giving them a driver resume and your SCCA TT license?

I used my SCCA Time Trials Advanced license and a reference to get a NASA Time Trial Provisional license. It takes four NASA TT's under the provisional license to get a permanent.