Headers....I be thinking about...headers.

Deputy Dog · 12-24-2018, 10:45 PM

I'm thinking about adding headers installed by my dealer to keep my car in full warranty. My question is how will it sound with my NPP muffler and how much HP/TQ can I expect with Long Tube headers ....and which manufacturer has the best performer.

JonD · 12-24-2018, 10:50 PM

If you’re concerned about warranty leave it stock, no law or rule will guarantee your warranty.

JCunningham · 12-25-2018, 02:07 AM

unless the dealer is willing to take over the warranty and put it in writing headers will void your engine warranty. They require a tune. GM will not tune it. The dealer can get you a aftermarket tune. it will sound pretty good. it will have some rasp too it. I ended up putting Flowmaster American thunder mufflers on it.

srcstc · 12-25-2018, 05:24 AM

Did the flowmaster help with the rasp?

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Zboy136 · 12-25-2018, 07:32 AM

Here is my car with long tube headers, hi flow cats, and the stock npp

777 · 12-25-2018, 09:20 AM

"full length" headers have been referred to as "long tubes" (at least on forums like ls1tech) ever since I had my first trans am in 2006 and I'm sure it's been referred to that long before then. Have you never seen the phrase "LT headers"?

JonD · 12-25-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 18ss376

What the heck is "long tubes"? You mean full length? Been installing header since 1987 & every set is called a "shorty" or "full length". You young whipper snappers are killing me...lol

lol, some companies call them long tubes like kooks, some call them short or long systems like ARH

Chris C 1SS 1LE · 12-25-2018, 10:28 AM

Put full length long tubes on the Z and he Firehawk. Best of both worlds.

JonD · 12-25-2018, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 18ss376

Where in this list does it say "Long Tubes"? When drag racing started no one called them long tubes...LMAO!!!

Have you looked into that thing called google?

https://www.kooksheaders.com/2016-ca...3-headers.html

But hey long tubes or full length... same thing

BradfordCamaro · 12-25-2018, 11:26 AM

Toemato, Tomatoe.

I have always known them as long tubes since the 80s.

JCunningham · 12-25-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by srcstc

Did the flowmaster help with the rasp?

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yes got rid of it

JCunningham · 12-25-2018, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 18ss376

Where in this list does it say "Long Tubes"? When drag racing started no one called them long tubes...LMAO!!!

when cheap companies started scamming people with short tube headers.

JCunningham · 12-25-2018, 05:24 PM

they started calling them long tube headers in the 80s when short tube headers came out. millenials dont know what long tube headers are.

SJFGTO · 12-25-2018, 06:24 PM

Back to the OP's original question. You will not keep your warranty with "long tube headers" because that modification will require a tune. A tune will void any engine and probably any drivetrain warranty claim whether it actually caused the malfunction or not. Headers with the stock exhaust and a tune will add 30-40 HP and give better mid and upper range pull.

12-24-2018, 10:45 PM	#1
Deputy Dog Banned Drives: 2017 Super Sport Cam. Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: US Posts: 893	Headers....I be thinking about...headers. I'm thinking about adding headers installed by my dealer to keep my car in full warranty. My question is how will it sound with my NPP muffler and how much HP/TQ can I expect with Long Tube headers ....and which manufacturer has the best performer.

12-24-2018, 10:50 PM	#2
JonD Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Arizona Posts: 292	If you’re concerned about warranty leave it stock, no law or rule will guarantee your warranty. __________________ 🌽 Sauced, 2018 SS 1LE - 123mph @ 5,000 DA ARH 2”x3” FULL System, Pray Ported MSD Intake Manifold, Pray Ported GM 95mm TB, RotoFab CAI, DsX e85 Kit, MightyMouse Catch Can, NicD Tune https://instagram.com/corn_sauced?ut...d=o0ako89uurwl

12-25-2018, 02:07 AM	#3
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	unless the dealer is willing to take over the warranty and put it in writing headers will void your engine warranty. They require a tune. GM will not tune it. The dealer can get you a aftermarket tune. it will sound pretty good. it will have some rasp too it. I ended up putting Flowmaster American thunder mufflers on it. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

12-25-2018, 10:28 AM	#8
Chris C 1SS 1LE Drives: 2017 1LE Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Brooks, GA Posts: 697	Put full length long tubes on the Z and he Firehawk. Best of both worlds. __________________ '17 Bright Yellow 1LE. PDR, STB, !CAGS Borla 60606, 11925. Tony Mamo ported TB, ROTOFAB, !Sound Tube

12-25-2018, 11:26 AM	#10
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,012	Toemato, Tomatoe. I have always known them as long tubes since the 80s. __________________

12-25-2018, 05:24 AM	#4
srcstc Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: North Jersey Posts: 591	Did the flowmaster help with the rasp? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-25-2018, 09:20 AM	#6
777 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 16	"full length" headers have been referred to as "long tubes" (at least on forums like ls1tech) ever since I had my first trans am in 2006 and I'm sure it's been referred to that long before then. Have you never seen the phrase "LT headers"?

12-25-2018, 05:24 PM	#13
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	they started calling them long tube headers in the 80s when short tube headers came out. millenials dont know what long tube headers are. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

12-25-2018, 06:24 PM	#14
SJFGTO Oh Oh it's Friday Night! Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Walton Woods Posts: 1,061	Back to the OP's original question. You will not keep your warranty with "long tube headers" because that modification will require a tune. A tune will void any engine and probably any drivetrain warranty claim whether it actually caused the malfunction or not. Headers with the stock exhaust and a tune will add 30-40 HP and give better mid and upper range pull. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE NFG; ARH 2” headers, catless mids, ARH full exhaust, Lingenfelter 18% lower pulley, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Roto-fab CAI, EE-catch can, TM ported TB, NX Lid, BMR strut tower brace. Aeroforce dual pod interceptor gauges. Tuned by Vengeance Racing!!! 644 HP @ 6250 rpm / 689 trq @ 3660 rpm Four that wanna own me Two that wanna stone me One says she's a friend of mine...

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