[Mountain]

Having Vorshlag on-board is very good. Some really good tech and parts, I can remember, from being on the Mustang side...

[Move_Over]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Having Vorshlag on-board is very good. Some really good tech and parts, I can remember, from being on the Mustang side...

Hopefully terry isn’t trying to sabotage us, being a mustang guy 😆

[Badgerbimmer]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

When i originally had terry look at the design of the moreno, he said something along the lines of the spherical bearings will only last a few weeks since they reuse the OEM spring perch."

Say what?? I can assure you that the spherical bearing last longer than a few weeks.

[R3ctivision]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

There was only one person that had a problem with the Moreno plates, and it turned out he installed them wrong. He admitted it but the internet had already dropped the gavel. Mine have been perfect to-date after plenty of track and salty winter abuse.

Ditto. Tracked mine 8 times with no problems. 3.4 deg negative camber!

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by R3ctivision

Ditto. Tracked mine 8 times with no problems. 3.4 deg negative camber!

hmm i heard a few had issues and they even sent out some replacement parts but who knows but they no longer around and i dont even think gen5 sells em anymore also

[Chris V]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

There was only one person that had a problem with the Moreno plates, and it turned out he installed them wrong. He admitted it but the internet had already dropped the gavel. Mine have been perfect to-date after plenty of track and salty winter abuse.

Ditto, minus the salty winter abuse.

I called Vorshlag last year before I found out Gen5DIY had the last of the Moreno plates and Terry and Jason at that point couldn't figure out how to make a plate for the car, and said that they didn't think that the platform would have enough people tracking them to make it worthwhile.

So combine that with them shitting all over the SCCA Time Trials efforts, and they've lost my business.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

We are not done in any we on the plates, with that said we are working on a better way and for less $ think ZL1LE.

[Destroyer_1LE]

Does anyone have updates?

[Move_Over]

Originally Posted by Destroyer_1LE

Does anyone have updates?

When i spoke with Jason from Vorshlag he said expect to see the first batch come around late Jan early feb if everything goes well with their mule. interested to see Gen5DIY design too.

[Destroyer_1LE]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

When i spoke with Jason from Vorshlag he said expect to see the first batch come around late Jan early feb if everything goes well with their mule. interested to see Gen5DIY design too.

Did he say anything about the price of them? I think Gen5DIY dropped the project at this point.

[Sakudog]

very, very interested.

[kropscamaro16]

maybe they will be my bday gift to myself lol my bday is march 5th btw !

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

When i originally had terry look at the design of the moreno, he said something along the lines of the spherical bearings will only last a few weeks since they reuse the OEM spring perch. They were trying hard to come up with a setup that THEY can supply the upper spring perch for, not reuse stock, get rid of some rubber and not have the customer have to modify (drill holes) in anything OEM. ...

That assessment by Vorshlag makes no sense, unless they didn't see the spring perch thrust bearing that's part of the Moreno design. The axial and radial load specs for the bearing Moreno chose are perfectly acceptable. It sounds like Vorshlag simply didn't look at the whole assembly and jumped to a conclusion.

Reusing the stock spring perch isn't an issue. Placing artificial limits on the design by saying they don't want to modify the ID of the stock spring perch's hole is odd; it's not an unobtainium part. It's #92271186 and they're $24/each.

Furthermore, having the option of stock or 1/2" lower ride height with modular assembly blocks is [IMO] a major selling point. It allows me to place the front ride height at roughly FEA positioning with zero loss in compression travel.

[Move_Over]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

That assessment by Vorshlag makes no sense, unless they didn't see the spring perch thrust bearing that's part of the Moreno design. The axial and radial load specs for the bearing Moreno chose are perfectly acceptable. It sounds like Vorshlag simply didn't look at the whole assembly and jumped to a conclusion.

Reusing the stock spring perch isn't an issue. Placing artificial limits on the design by saying they don't want to modify the ID of the stock spring perch's hole is odd; it's not an unobtainium part. It's #92271186 and they're $24/each.

Furthermore, having the option of stock or 1/2" lower ride height with modular assembly blocks is [IMO] a major selling point. It allows me to place the front ride height at roughly FEA positioning with zero loss in compression travel.

Agreed, i was just relaying the conversation i had on fb with him. I have always loved Vorshlags product and will probably run that anyhow, was just sharing what he said. I agree with the Lower ride height as i wish i could drop the front of mine without losing comp travel as well.

A few posts up GEN5DIY states they are still working on theirs. Good to know there are some options.