12-12-2018, 03:00 PM | #1 |
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Cheapest way to get to 500whp
Just looking for info here..
Thinking of a roadrace build and looking to get to at least 500whp and do it as inexpensively as possible. Would intake, long tubes, and a cam be enough? David |
12-12-2018, 03:08 PM | #2 |
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Yes that would get you there but cheapest would be nitrous.
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12-12-2018, 03:25 PM | #3 |
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12-12-2018, 03:37 PM | #4 |
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Some cars can come close to 500 wheel hp with bolt on parts. That is to say, you don't end up on an unhappy dyno. A cam change with the correct bolt on's is the best way to get 500+ hp. Then e85 would be a bonus on top of that. My car is making 534 wheel hp with bolt on's and one of our stage 3 camshafts. I would guess that port work would add another 30-40 hp on top of that.
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12-12-2018, 03:40 PM | #5 |
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12-12-2018, 03:47 PM | #7 | |
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12-12-2018, 04:56 PM | #8 |
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He got a dyno done at 515 rwhp. But thinks the gears skewed the results
FBO cars are 480-500 rwhp depending on dyno and correction factor etc. Even at 515 and 15% loss (which is way high) it wouldn’t be 600. About 550-575 crank hp is a good guess. I trap 127-128 as well and make 490 rwhp. |
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12-12-2018, 06:29 PM | #10 |
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well, I don't need that much for roadracing, but I would definitely like to be over 500 wheel.
I'm gonna keep an eye out for long tubes, do either a fast or MSD intake with a cold air and see where that puts me. Of course I will consider a cam as well, depending on where I end up. |
12-12-2018, 06:45 PM | #11 |
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I would do headers, ported MSD, 95mm throttle body, Rotofab, flex fuel sensor and E85 tune. Should be right at or slightly over 500 at the wheels give or take a few. Then you can decide if you want to cam it or not.
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12-12-2018, 11:52 PM | #12 |
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My car made 500+ rwhp STD on a dynojet, and it baselined at 380 rwhp (a8). With a baseline of 380 rwhp and the 455 rating, that would be 16.4835% drivetrain loss.
500 / 0.83516 = 599 crank hp. To answer the original question.... just throw a nitrous kit on a stock car, you will be well over 500 rwhp and cheaper than anything else.
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12-13-2018, 08:40 AM | #13 |
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From what I've seen, a ported stock intake and either a 95mm or stock ported TB (Pray Performance seems to have them down), E85 FF sensor, Rotofab, cat deletes (if you don't care about them), and a custom tune by Pray, Janetty Racing, or other reputable LT1 tuner and you could see if you even need headers.
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12-13-2018, 09:03 AM | #14 |
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No bolt-on 6th gen is anywhere close to 600whp on a realistic dyno. That is max effort heads/cam territory. Snowblind's car and any other bolt-on 6th gen running mid 10's has quite a bit of weight pulled out of the car. Most have the seats pulled, drag wheels, drag brakes, dumped exhaust...etc. You can get a 1ss down into the 3400 range pretty easy with these mods. they only way 3580-3600lbs bone stock.
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