Headers - Heat shield for starter

00Form · 12-31-2019, 03:18 PM

So I am finally installing my 2" kook headers/exhaust on a 2017 camaro ss. Also a Pray ported MSD/95mm throttle body, E85 and an ATI underdrive pulley. I already had a rotofab induction. My car dyno'd just over 390 w/ just the rotofab.

There are threads recommending a heat shield but I noticed there already is one from the factory. Do people change this or add an additional one?

I also see the harness everyone speaks about moving under the coolant tank that should be moved.

What a difference between this car and my 2000 Formula. Looks like a lot more engineering went into this one.

Also, I can't find my E85 conversion kit that I bought. I have a tune from Pray. Can I run it before I install the sensor. I didn't know if it will default to gas if no sensor is found or not.

Thanks

6spdhyperblue · 12-31-2019, 03:42 PM

Are the headers coated or wrapped?

RLNTLSS · 12-31-2019, 04:54 PM

Car doesn't adjust to anything if it cant see e85... I would do sensor first then install tune.. i recently wanted to see what kind of gas I was getting at two pumps here in town so I bought a Bluetooth adapter from Amazon and the torque pro 2 app and there was a guy on a Cadillac website that had a custom PID which allowed me to read the e85 content running through my fuel lines Right now I'm sitting at 73.9% from one station and 65.3 at another I think it may be because I still had two gallons of regular gas 93 octane so my next one should put me in the 80s percentile

JCunningham · 12-31-2019, 08:10 PM

2016s didnt all have the heat shield. Thats why people talk about adding one. Iv had my headers for 2 years and have the factory shield but I also have Swain Tech ceramic coating. you can add the E85 sensor but do not put E85 in the car until its tuned. The sensor isnt turned on until it is turned on in the tune.

00Form · 01-01-2020, 09:01 AM

Thanks!

I wondered if the heat shield was added later.

My headers are not coated or wrapped.

I found my E85 conversion kit so that is no longer an issue.

As a side note, I ordered the exhaust with cats because I was afraid it would be too loud without them. I also ordered my car without the quad exhaust so the sound will be very different.

JGiovando · 01-01-2020, 07:13 PM

OP, my headers are ceramic coated but I added a lava shield starter shield too, for 40 bucks it's just extra insurance and made me feel better. Over a year and no issues with heat and starter, car is tracked too.

BruceWayne1LE · 04-30-2021, 11:53 PM

Reviving old thread:
Can’t get the starter shield back on with the headers on. I wrapped the starter with the DEI Versa shield. So question is: DEI wrap vs GM shield??

laynlo15 · 05-01-2021, 07:29 AM

I wrapped mine with header tape and the two tubes closest to the header were also taped. Never had and issue. I also wrapped my C7.

6spdhyperblue · 05-01-2021, 07:46 AM

I always wondered about the heat in the starter. Wouldn’t the wrap not let it escape as easily?

BruceWayne1LE · 05-01-2021, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

I always wondered about the heat in the starter. Wouldn’t the wrap not let it escape as easily?

I think it’s mostly about radiant heat resistance. I’ve also had the habit for a quite a few years that after a long drive I park the car with the hood open for an hour in the garage.

17MaroSS · 05-07-2021, 02:01 PM

Can someone please provide a link to the starter heat shield or please share where you got it form. Thanks

laynlo15 · 05-07-2021, 03:16 PM

It just keeps it from getting too hot right next to the starter. On my C7 we were able to leave the heat shield on but still wrapped the starter anyway.

12-31-2019, 03:18 PM	#1
00Form Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Palm Beach Gardens Posts: 30	Headers - Heat shield for starter So I am finally installing my 2" kook headers/exhaust on a 2017 camaro ss. Also a Pray ported MSD/95mm throttle body, E85 and an ATI underdrive pulley. I already had a rotofab induction. My car dyno'd just over 390 w/ just the rotofab. There are threads recommending a heat shield but I noticed there already is one from the factory. Do people change this or add an additional one? I also see the harness everyone speaks about moving under the coolant tank that should be moved. What a difference between this car and my 2000 Formula. Looks like a lot more engineering went into this one. Also, I can't find my E85 conversion kit that I bought. I have a tune from Pray. Can I run it before I install the sensor. I didn't know if it will default to gas if no sensor is found or not. Thanks

12-31-2019, 03:42 PM	#2
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	Are the headers coated or wrapped? __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

12-31-2019, 04:54 PM	#3
RLNTLSS INTSAGRAM: Failwish Drives: 2019 /2SS LT1 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Tx Posts: 232	Car doesn't adjust to anything if it cant see e85... I would do sensor first then install tune.. i recently wanted to see what kind of gas I was getting at two pumps here in town so I bought a Bluetooth adapter from Amazon and the torque pro 2 app and there was a guy on a Cadillac website that had a custom PID which allowed me to read the e85 content running through my fuel lines Right now I'm sitting at 73.9% from one station and 65.3 at another I think it may be because I still had two gallons of regular gas 93 octane so my next one should put me in the 80s percentile __________________ 2019/LT1 2SS

12-31-2019, 08:10 PM	#4
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	2016s didnt all have the heat shield. Thats why people talk about adding one. Iv had my headers for 2 years and have the factory shield but I also have Swain Tech ceramic coating. you can add the E85 sensor but do not put E85 in the car until its tuned. The sensor isnt turned on until it is turned on in the tune. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

04-30-2021, 11:53 PM	#7
BruceWayne1LE Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE M6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Northern California Posts: 345	Reviving old thread: Can’t get the starter shield back on with the headers on. I wrapped the starter with the DEI Versa shield. So question is: DEI wrap vs GM shield?? __________________ Camaro 2SS 1LE, MBRP Catback, Mishimoto Catch Can, Rotofab dry, TSP1 7/8” headers,DSX FF, Pray ported MSD, 95mm TB 492WHP 473WTQ

01-01-2020, 09:01 AM	#5
00Form Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Palm Beach Gardens Posts: 30	Thanks! I wondered if the heat shield was added later. My headers are not coated or wrapped. I found my E85 conversion kit so that is no longer an issue. As a side note, I ordered the exhaust with cats because I was afraid it would be too loud without them. I also ordered my car without the quad exhaust so the sound will be very different.

01-01-2020, 07:13 PM	#6
JGiovando Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE HBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 161	OP, my headers are ceramic coated but I added a lava shield starter shield too, for 40 bucks it's just extra insurance and made me feel better. Over a year and no issues with heat and starter, car is tracked too.

05-01-2021, 07:29 AM	#8
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I wrapped mine with header tape and the two tubes closest to the header were also taped. Never had and issue. I also wrapped my C7. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

05-01-2021, 07:46 AM	#9
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	I always wondered about the heat in the starter. Wouldn’t the wrap not let it escape as easily? __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

05-07-2021, 02:01 PM	#11
17MaroSS Drives: 17 2SS 6sp Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Bad Roads, North Jersey Posts: 185	Can someone please provide a link to the starter heat shield or please share where you got it form. Thanks __________________ FOR SALE 17 2SS 6spd h/c/i/fbo

05-07-2021, 03:16 PM	#12
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	It just keeps it from getting too hot right next to the starter. On my C7 we were able to leave the heat shield on but still wrapped the starter anyway. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

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