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Old 06-16-2012, 08:04 PM   #1
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Be careful when choosing a shop

Please do your homework and go some place that has proven experience with installs and especially tuning.

This is an example of a shop that didnt have proper experience working on LS cars. I told them the stock air box was required they said no no its fine and this was the result

Thery reused my cold air inductions filter which didnt clear the wheel well. When we troubleshooting my rim issue me Kendell and Dom found this :

So we took the wheel well off adn found this:


Being a parts rat helped me here as I still had a CAI air filter ( thnx Sean Bennet ) laying around. It cleared the wheel well but I used some zip ties for good measure to make sure they is no rubbing.


So its actually a blessing we had the rim/tire issue unless we would never have found the issue and it may have worn through possible sending pieces of the air filter into places it shouldnt be. It could have blew my motor. So the aggravation over the rims had some good things come of it.

So please ask questions and make sure communication is good. All the shop I went to had to do is communicate with me and half of the problems we had would have would not have happened. So if you get a bad vibe shop around. We all work hard for our money get what you pay for.

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Old 06-16-2012, 08:16 PM   #2
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care to share the shop name?
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:18 PM   #3
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its up here in ny not looking to kill them even though they suck if I see someone going there ill send a pm they arent real players in the camaro world and I think after my car they might not have Camaros again
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:20 AM   #4
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I know what you're going through. I had a Cam install at a shop in California and turns out they messed it up. Drilled the crank way to far and messed up the install and tune so much that I now need a new motor...awesome.
wow this really does suck. worse case is always needing a new engine. makes me feel greatfull to have a good local shop.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:25 AM   #5
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Please do your homework and go some place that has proven experience with installs and especially tuning.


my turbo build took 7 weeks for a bolt in turbonetics kit
Great Advise! With F/I make sure they've done it a few times before so you're not a guinea pig for their R&D......even free is too much risk. The parts are too expensive on the car and most shops don't have the pockets to cover the damage.....been there.

Nice ziptie BTW on the intake tube.

You should name the vendor.....to prevent other consumers from getting ripped off........because now he's most likley using pictures of your install as a proof of previous work.

One guy posted a pic of a mushroom air element that came off horizontally...which I think is good improvement in the TN design. With that lowered element, in heavy rain you could drive through a puddle and hydrolock.

I hope everything got sorted and your car is boosted for fun now.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:21 AM   #6
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I'll post my previous vendor. Cunningham Motorsports in Temecula California. I heard great things about them and trusted them, but apparently they can't get something simple like drilling the crank right...
That will be the first (non-opinion) bad thing I've heard about them since reading this forum. There are a few people here that don't like them personally, but I've never heard of bad WORK that they've done... When did this happen?
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The wiring in the 1st picture looks like a mess too. Just my 0.02 cents.
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I'll post my previous vendor. Cunningham Motorsports in Temecula California. I heard great things about them and trusted them, but apparently they can't get something simple like drilling the crank right...



Is thjs CMS here in Socal?
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I know what you're going through. I had a Cam install at a shop in California and turns out they messed it up. Drilled the crank way to far and messed up the install and tune so much that I now need a new motor...awesome.
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we are very large camaro club and everyone here knows the deal with the shop

and trust me they arent using pics of my car
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If you're around NY area why in the world would you not of gone to Jannetty....

(honestly curious).
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:28 PM   #12
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Because teds 2.5 hours
And the place came recommended from a buddy

The point of the post is to be more careful I wasn't lesson learned

Car is going to Ted next week sometime
For a full dyno tune
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I'll post my previous vendor. Cunningham Motorsports in Temecula California. I heard great things about them and trusted them, but apparently they can't get something simple like drilling the crank right...
first of all i would like to say i am sorry to hear you had issues. We are still a vendor... and this is the first we are hearing of this.... never got a email or phone call regarding this issue.... i do recall your car came in with the supercharger already installed and the crank drilled, so can you please post the exactly what "we" did wrong, as we were not the only people that were in your car, in addition could you please explain in detail how the pinned crank caused the motor to fail?.... as far the tune goes, as goes i spend hours and hours on that thing, i even worked off of the tune that jannety had in there already (i think he is respected around here) but as many already know the tuner is always to blame....

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wow this really does suck. worse case is always needing a new engine. makes me feel greatfull to have a good local shop.
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That will be the first (non-opinion) bad thing I've heard about them since reading this forum. There are a few people here that don't like them personally, but I've never heard of bad WORK that they've done... When did this happen?
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first of all i would like to say i am sorry to hear you had issues. We are still a vendor... and this is the first we are hearing of this.... never got a email or phone call regarding this issue.... i do recall your car came in with the supercharger already installed and the crank drilled, so can you please post the exactly what "we" did wrong, as we were not the only people that were in your car, in addition could you please explain in detail how the pinned crank caused the motor to fail?.... as far the tune goes, as goes i spend hours and hours on that thing, i even worked off of the tune that jannety had in there already (i think he is respected around here) but as many already know the tuner is always to blame....
As discussed privately with CMS, a friend of mine that I gave access to my account, when I was on deployment with the Navy, took it upon himself to post stuff about CMS without my permission. Not all the facts are in yet and I can safely say it won't happen again...Password changed...friend talked to. Sorry for the confusion.
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