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From the author's PoV, sure. What I took from it is western governments, through regulation, took their OEMs from an arena where they dominated into one where they aren't competitive and and will continue to be without even more regulation/protection. I didn't see nearly as many thumbs on the scales ten years ago.
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I'm highly skeptical. First off, we have history which proves they have repeatedly cut the rates they are paying solar customers for their energy feeding back into the grid. Second, its not economically feasible for the electric company to pay out what they charge long term. Sure, the government may subsidize for the short term, then the cheese goes away and the value vanishes. |
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Volt in the wild. I see these about as often as I see ZL1's... which is pretty much never.
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A lot of electronics and battery tech have come from China for a long time...this is not a weak spot for them any longer. |
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They are nice cars. We had a 2012 1st gen Volt (2012 - 15) and then a 2017 2nd gen (2016-2019). The 2nd gen lost an argument with a Durango and was replaced by a Tesla Model Y.
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So the idea is making the grid save fuel like a hybrid vehicle? Then, $/kW arbitrage cells should just be dedicated batteries that are very cycling resilient and cheap. The better way to put an electrified vehicle battery to work is: have less of it, cycle the whole thing, plus use an engine (that isn't nearly as expensive as they've become). Avoid the expense of energy density priority cells and lots of them.
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Quick couple questions. Did you give any thought to a Toyota Crown? Does that thing count as a sedan or a couped crossover? |
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Wife was driving. Several broken ribs and a cracked sternum. Otherwise all good. Thanks for the concern.
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As far as the Crown and its place in the automotive landscape, sure. Crown has both a sedan version and a crossover coupe. The sedan replaced Avalon. The crossover replaced Venza. As I mentioned, brands like Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan can be expected to continue with sedans in their portfolio. It makes sense, because their Truck CAFE fleets are under control. They don’t have high volumes of full-sized pickup trucks to balance out for CAFE. For every F150, Silverado, Ram that’s sold, the OEM has to balance the CAFE position by offering fuel efficient Truck fleet models. That’s where Equinox, Terrain, Trailblazer, et al come in. They pump up the CAFE average on the Truck fleet side. But for Toyota, Honda and the others I mentioned, they can concentrate more of their resources to offering a CAFE compliant car fleet. And if you’re Toyota, who is way ahead of everybody in terms of hybrid technology and cost, you make hybrid models on everything (except Supra) and shift a number of your high volume models (Camry, Crown, Sienna, Venza) to be hybrid only. Fixes the Car CAFE. Having hybrid as an option as well as a performance play on CR-V, Tacoma, and Tundra helps balance it on the Truck side.
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Ironically, it does now what the Atlas engine (L4/5/6) was supposed to do 20ears ago.
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I'd be curious to know how the 2.7 sells relative to the 5.3 and if that 2mpg bump for city and 1mpg bump for highway really helps GM achieve its CAFE goals. I appreciate the 2.7 for what it is, but if I'm buying a Silverado and the 5.3 is still available, I'm going with that. large displacement, pushrod, no turbo. Just IMHO. |
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Holy Crap the Ionic 5n is $66K
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