05-08-2019, 04:09 PM | #1 |
Using Stock Air Intake to make new intake
What would be the difference in me buying a new K&N intake kit as opposed to just using the same piping, buying a K&N filter and new heat shield that is open to more air flow? I have a 10 SS. Is this even possible? I see so much speculation about CAI's that you're paying for a tube and a brand name filter and that's about the extent of it.
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05-08-2019, 06:33 PM | #2 |
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Love what you searched to find that. OP, honestly I’d say it’s not worth the trouble to make your own. If you’re pretty handy and you think you can make something that works then go for it, it probably won’t look great or work as well as a name brand but if that’s something you’re interested in trying then have at it and be sure to let us know what you do and how it goes, but otherwise I’d just go on the forum marketplace or craigslist or whatever and buy a used one if money is what you’re concerned about. Not only are you paying for the research and development that each brand has conducted, but you’re paying for the fit and finish, ease of installation, and well-put-together look that you get from a name brand cold air intake.
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05-08-2019, 09:08 PM | #4 |
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You should read the studies that were done by Jannetty racing in dyno comparisons, but apparently you sound too cheap to even get a chromed cheap K&N that's prone to heat soak ;so thinking about a ceramic coated tube or say the ram air of the Vararam are most likely way out of your budget ……. Frankly cleaning and oil coating a filter can be a way to save money but also a pain and a way to get crap on the MAF from over oiling if you don't know what your doing...…. So why even spend money on a filter.....
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05-08-2019, 09:28 PM | #5 | |
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Honestly though, he has a point. You have a bad ass car. If you cannot afford a good CAI right now, hold off and save until you can. But if money isn't a factor, then I would say do some research and buy a proper one. A lot of research has gone into these units, as simple as you may think they are. As handy as you may be, there is a reason for each unit to be designed as it is. For instance, tube diameter and MAF placement plays a huge role in making sure things run right.
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05-09-2019, 04:11 AM | #6 |
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Vararam, CAI or Rotofab in that order or bust. My Vararam shows around 118 to 120 deg idling not moving and goes to about 2 to 4 deg above ambient as soon as I start to move. KnN Black series was 122 deg idling and was always hot to the touch. After driving around, you could scald your hand.
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05-09-2019, 07:51 AM | #7 |
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I agree to disagree on some of the responses all the aftermarket intakes in the world some how needed to start from a design concept with testing etc. if you have any skills you certainly can make a intake and make it even better than stock or even better than what’s out there. I personally built my own (was not cheap to get everything I needed ) out of true carbon fiber. I built mine to my personal design and it’s certainly better than anything out there. Nice thing is I now own all goods to make more parts. The initial investment was not cheap to make this one at all. I don’t want to get to much in detail on the one I built since this thread is not in the DIY section but here is a picture of my intake I made. We should be encouraging the OP to making one if he wants to make something.
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05-09-2019, 09:52 AM | #9 |
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A lot of flow research goes into these intakes. The stock intake is made to meet the minimum requirements of the factory engine and to quiet the air coming in. It is a restriction when it comes to adding more performance. If you had time and a free dyno I'd say it would be fun to see if you can make something out of almost nothing but if you just want the honest performance gains, just buy one.
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05-09-2019, 10:07 AM | #10 |
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Buy the GM Z/28 intake for the best of both worlds: quality and performance
IAT's are very close to what I saw with a vararam tune version and I'd say the throttle response is also very close. Couldn't care less if the vararam performs better. Just ****ing with it to just replace the filter will make you want to throw it in the trash. The one thing the GM intake has over the aftermarket is quality. You cannot beat OEM quality.
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05-09-2019, 12:21 PM | #11 |
Ok, thanks for the input everyone. I think I might just buy a name brand one, but I guess the next question would be if I decided to run forced induction of some sort on the car eventually, would I have just wasted money on a CAI? You can't run a CAI with a supercharger or turbo can you?
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Turbo would be a whole new ball game and CAI is pointless really I'll be honest with you. I bought this and it works just as well. I get good performance and never and issues. R&L Racing AF Dynamic Black Cold Air Filter Intake Systems with Heat Shield 2010-2015 for Chevy Camaro SS 6.2L V8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LE56XOQ..._Kkg1CbN9JYJCA
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05-09-2019, 02:12 PM | #13 |
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Your not winning or losing races based on your cai. Get what you want..I have K@N and have zero issues.
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05-09-2019, 02:27 PM | #14 |
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Best bang for the buck is the Spectre new design. 150 bucks.
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