SCT and Bully Dog Programmers?

kykid · 01-06-2019, 06:49 PM

With the recent EPA raping of the parent corp of SCT and Bully Dog programmers, what are everyone's thoughts regarding functionality of these units? In the settlement the company is supposed to eliminate the capabilities the feds don't like. I was planning on going with one or the other for tuning and seeing as they have built in WiFi and cloud updating the company could easily send a firmware update that significantly neuters these units. For reference, Harley-Davidson had the exact same thing happen to them with their super tuners (I bought one of the last REAL super tuners my local dealer had in stock). After the settlement the replacement unit was useless. Mine unlocked the ECU and allowed full custom tuning. Do you guys foresee the same scenario here, particularly them forcing an update to existing units that neuters them?

laynlo15 · 01-06-2019, 08:26 PM

It will be very interesting.

JCunningham · 01-08-2019, 01:18 AM

it wont update unless you allow it. dont update the current units. if you update the unit your old tunes may not work.

kykid · 01-09-2019, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCunningham

it wont update unless you allow it. dont update the current units. if you update the unit your old tunes may not work.

I wish that were the case for me, I have yet to buy a tuner and it sounds like now it may be too late for this as apparently half of the tuning functionality has been removed since the EPA situation.

JCunningham · 01-09-2019, 01:14 PM

HP hasn't been affected yet so my tuner says.

2ltrgsr · 01-09-2019, 02:09 PM

From Steve:

Hey Sir

Not now through us, we sat the EPA & Clean Air Act CAA exams and passed so we have full control of the sct/bdx units maintained kind sir, so tuning is as per normal sir

Thanks Steve
RDP Store
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440 358 5500

JCunningham · 01-09-2019, 02:52 PM

id still go with HP tuners.

JANNETTYRACING · 01-09-2019, 03:43 PM

We still have the exact functionality we always had with SCT the user adjustable function for shutting off the rear O2s has been removed and it never really worked anyway.

Ted.

Ventmaster · 01-09-2019, 03:45 PM

And I'm still completely pleased with BullyDog (SCT) custom tune from the rdpstore. Thank you DynoSteve!

01-06-2019, 06:49 PM	#1
kykid Drives: 2018 Camaro SS Coupe 6M Hyper Blue Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: In the 502 Posts: 45 View My Garage	SCT and Bully Dog Programmers? With the recent EPA raping of the parent corp of SCT and Bully Dog programmers, what are everyone's thoughts regarding functionality of these units? In the settlement the company is supposed to eliminate the capabilities the feds don't like. I was planning on going with one or the other for tuning and seeing as they have built in WiFi and cloud updating the company could easily send a firmware update that significantly neuters these units. For reference, Harley-Davidson had the exact same thing happen to them with their super tuners (I bought one of the last REAL super tuners my local dealer had in stock). After the settlement the replacement unit was useless. Mine unlocked the ECU and allowed full custom tuning. Do you guys foresee the same scenario here, particularly them forcing an update to existing units that neuters them?

01-06-2019, 08:26 PM	#2
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	It will be very interesting. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-08-2019, 01:18 AM	#3
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	it wont update unless you allow it. dont update the current units. if you update the unit your old tunes may not work. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

01-09-2019, 01:14 PM	#5
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	HP hasn't been affected yet so my tuner says. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

01-09-2019, 02:52 PM	#7
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	id still go with HP tuners. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

01-09-2019, 02:09 PM	#6
2ltrgsr AXLERODZL1 Drives: 2019 Riverside blue ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Carrollton, VA Posts: 205	From Steve: Hey Sir Not now through us, we sat the EPA & Clean Air Act CAA exams and passed so we have full control of the sct/bdx units maintained kind sir, so tuning is as per normal sir Thanks Steve RDP Store www.rdpstore.com 440 358 5500

01-09-2019, 03:43 PM	#8
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,223	We still have the exact functionality we always had with SCT the user adjustable function for shutting off the rear O2s has been removed and it never really worked anyway. Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

01-09-2019, 03:45 PM	#9
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 2,862	And I'm still completely pleased with BullyDog (SCT) custom tune from the rdpstore. Thank you DynoSteve!

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