Dissected: Updated AC Delco PF64 Oil Filter - Page 2

AD17SS1LE · 01-31-2020, 03:20 PM

I use Mobil 1 M1-113A, their bypass valve set point is 22-28 lbs.

JROC · 01-31-2020, 06:58 PM

I run a Baldwin 7422. Made in the U.S. by the same company who makes Hastings and Amsoil filters. I think the company is called Clarcor or something like that. Its bypass is 20 PSI. Will likely switch to the Baldwin 7449 which has the same bypass setting. Their the same filter other than the 7449 is the long truck filter.

Tyestick · 01-31-2020, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AD17SS1LE

I use Mobil 1 M1-113A, their bypass valve set point is 22-28 lbs.

Can you link me to where you found that bypass valve set point at 22-28?

It’s possible that I’m overlooking it, but I’m not finding any information that backs that up.

Edit:

I did find some info, from the ‘corvetteforums’ but it’s pretty limited, and coming from a source that isn’t ‘official’, I’m not sure how much stock I put into it.

Emoto · 02-01-2020, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cdb95z28

For the Gen6 Camaros with the LT1/LT4. Some of this has been previously covered:

I cut apart the newer version of the AC Delco PF64 Oil Filter, GM part # 12696048. There is an older version of the PF64, part # 12640445, ...

Thanks for the great informative post!

JROC · 02-22-2020, 08:59 PM

TTT.

I can't lie. I bought the updated PF64 for cheap on Amazon, and I am just not impressed. Let me just say it looks like shit IMHO. I will not be running it. I've run Baldwin filters for the last few years, but when I changed the oil on my 19 SS I was very impressed with the older design PF64 that came factory on the car. Just a very well constructed and beefy looking filter. I was very impressed with it and thought why not go back to factory seeing as it's pretty much made specifically for the GEN5 SBC. While I'm sure this filter would do the job fine or GM wouldn't endorse it, IMO looks are important as this updated filter looks cheap and very budgeted. Just because any given broad gives good sex, if she's ugly I ain't with it. (or that's how I was before I got married) This new car isn't a cheap purchase, so when I change its oil I want to be impressed with the oil and filter I use. This new design just come across as a budget move. Again the old filter seemed like a very well built part, and this new one just seems cheap. That thin metal screen on the top of the bottom of the filter is the goofiest, most stupid looking thing I've ever seem on an old filter. I put it on the same level as using cardboard in an oil filter. GM should explain WTF its purpose is for. I view this update as a budget, cheaper to manufacture update as opposed to an improved filter performance design update.

Again the filter will likely work okay because GM says it will, but I just don't dig its design, and will be sticking with my Baldwin, or using a higherend Fram or a WIX rated with a similar bypass as GM claims you should run on these cars.

h018871 · 02-24-2020, 10:42 AM

thx for this CBD

vtirocz · 02-24-2020, 07:54 PM

Thanks for this info! The store I went to actually had both, so I ended up going with the older part number to give me more time to research this more. I did think it was interesting how much more surface are the plastic cage offered compared to the metal with holes in it. That may not be the bottleneck in flow, but thought that was interesting.

BPSS · 02-25-2020, 03:46 AM

Just went by my local GM/Opel dealer he Said the PF64 is out and the replacement filter is this #95528296, i Got the PF64/12640445 last year from the same dealer. ( i am from denmark so it not that easy to get GM parts.

Anyone know this filter !

JCunningham · 02-25-2020, 03:50 AM

your dealer is selling you a non GM filter made for Opal. Its probably cheaper for him to buy.

BPSS · 02-25-2020, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

your dealer is selling you a non GM filter made for Opal. Its probably cheaper for him to buy.

Opel/Vauxhall/GM is the same here, i saw the screen on his laptop, the filter is no longer in the system, and this should be the replacement.

vtirocz · 03-14-2020, 03:59 PM

The new part number (12696048) is specified in the owner's manual for the 2020 Corvette. If that's what's called out and validated on the top dog C8, it probably performs as good or better than the older filter (just speculating).

Interestingly, the 2020 Camaro owner's manual calls out the old part number for the V8 (12640445) and the new part number for the 2.0T (12696048) -- both take PF64. That's probably a mistake in the owners manual since 12640445 is not really available anymore and superseded by the new filter.

DorkMissile · 03-15-2020, 11:36 AM

Anyone just decide to use the Delco gold filters? I have like 8 of them still lol

Whitespeed · 03-16-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DorkMissile

Anyone just decide to use the Delco gold filters? I have like 8 of them still lol

You mean PN 12674698? That's what I use

Nigel

MakCamaro · 03-28-2020, 04:49 AM

Nice thread. Thanks OP.

01-31-2020, 03:20 PM	#15
AD17SS1LE Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Nashville Posts: 85 View My Garage	I use Mobil 1 M1-113A, their bypass valve set point is 22-28 lbs. __________________ 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Pray ported TB/IM TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers w catted con pipes Taylor plug wires Mishimoto oil cooler Elite X2 catch can

02-24-2020, 10:42 AM	#20
h018871 Geoff Drives: 2020 ZL1 Green Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,719	thx for this CBD __________________ Having a Blast https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...php?p=10741733

02-24-2020, 07:54 PM	#21
vtirocz Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indy Posts: 2,460	Thanks for this info! The store I went to actually had both, so I ended up going with the older part number to give me more time to research this more. I did think it was interesting how much more surface are the plastic cage offered compared to the metal with holes in it. That may not be the bottleneck in flow, but thought that was interesting. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS, M6, Hurst shifter, Hyper Blue, NPP, Gray Split Spoke Wheels Best 1/4 Mile: 12.24 @ 115.9 mph

02-25-2020, 03:46 AM	#22
BPSS Drives: Camaro 2SS 2018 Join Date: May 2019 Location: Denmark Posts: 25	Just went by my local GM/Opel dealer he Said the PF64 is out and the replacement filter is this #95528296, i Got the PF64/12640445 last year from the same dealer. ( i am from denmark so it not that easy to get GM parts. Anyone know this filter ! Attached Images

02-25-2020, 03:50 AM	#23
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	your dealer is selling you a non GM filter made for Opal. Its probably cheaper for him to buy. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

01-31-2020, 06:58 PM	#16
JROC Account Suspended Drives: 19 Camaro SS 1LE, 03 Ford Lightning Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: South Carolina Posts: 334	I run a Baldwin 7422. Made in the U.S. by the same company who makes Hastings and Amsoil filters. I think the company is called Clarcor or something like that. Its bypass is 20 PSI. Will likely switch to the Baldwin 7449 which has the same bypass setting. Their the same filter other than the 7449 is the long truck filter.

02-22-2020, 08:59 PM	#19
JROC Account Suspended Drives: 19 Camaro SS 1LE, 03 Ford Lightning Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: South Carolina Posts: 334	TTT. I can't lie. I bought the updated PF64 for cheap on Amazon, and I am just not impressed. Let me just say it looks like shit IMHO. I will not be running it. I've run Baldwin filters for the last few years, but when I changed the oil on my 19 SS I was very impressed with the older design PF64 that came factory on the car. Just a very well constructed and beefy looking filter. I was very impressed with it and thought why not go back to factory seeing as it's pretty much made specifically for the GEN5 SBC. While I'm sure this filter would do the job fine or GM wouldn't endorse it, IMO looks are important as this updated filter looks cheap and very budgeted. Just because any given broad gives good sex, if she's ugly I ain't with it. (or that's how I was before I got married) This new car isn't a cheap purchase, so when I change its oil I want to be impressed with the oil and filter I use. This new design just come across as a budget move. Again the old filter seemed like a very well built part, and this new one just seems cheap. That thin metal screen on the top of the bottom of the filter is the goofiest, most stupid looking thing I've ever seem on an old filter. I put it on the same level as using cardboard in an oil filter. GM should explain WTF its purpose is for. I view this update as a budget, cheaper to manufacture update as opposed to an improved filter performance design update. Again the filter will likely work okay because GM says it will, but I just don't dig its design, and will be sticking with my Baldwin, or using a higherend Fram or a WIX rated with a similar bypass as GM claims you should run on these cars.

03-14-2020, 03:59 PM	#25
vtirocz Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indy Posts: 2,460	The new part number (12696048) is specified in the owner's manual for the 2020 Corvette. If that's what's called out and validated on the top dog C8, it probably performs as good or better than the older filter (just speculating). Interestingly, the 2020 Camaro owner's manual calls out the old part number for the V8 (12640445) and the new part number for the 2.0T (12696048) -- both take PF64. That's probably a mistake in the owners manual since 12640445 is not really available anymore and superseded by the new filter. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS, M6, Hurst shifter, Hyper Blue, NPP, Gray Split Spoke Wheels Best 1/4 Mile: 12.24 @ 115.9 mph

03-15-2020, 11:36 AM	#26
DorkMissile Drives: 18 1SS 1LE HyperBlue Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 612	Anyone just decide to use the Delco gold filters? I have like 8 of them still lol __________________ 2018 1SS 1LE / HBM - ECS Novi 1500 S/C Tuned by Carl @ CJ Tunes

03-28-2020, 04:49 AM	#28
MakCamaro Makis Drives: 2020 Red Hot ZL1 A10 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: London - UK Posts: 806	Nice thread. Thanks OP.

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