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10-21-2020, 12:26 PM | #16 |
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Been battling the jointly rising coolant temps 262+ and Oil Temps 300+ on the first lap with a 2650.
I have conversed with a ton of folks with stock blower, aftermarket blower, and ported stocker. Seems the thing that everyone that is able to do laps in their car has done is a seperate oil cooler setup. I put a call into C&R today, as noted they don't make a radiator for the ZL1 or ZLE. During the call they stated that they found greater performance with seperation of the oil cooling from the engine cooling. Their solution is to replace the side cooler that performs secondary HX functions, make that an oil cooler, and put a larger primary HX into the car. Details to come out soon ISH. For now the Improved Racing with a SetRab hanging off the front of the car from say the front crash beam is going to be the way to make it happen. |
10-21-2020, 01:14 PM | #17 |
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I heard @travislambert Has some details!
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10-21-2020, 01:56 PM | #18 |
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Maybe Improved Racing can help you with an oil cooler.
I saw this video the other day: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k2UeXr...ture=emb_title http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-co...ter-p-930.html
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10-21-2020, 02:04 PM | #19 | |
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I have an untested and un installed list of parts from Improved. I will share it, however, again this has not been installed as of yet. And still requires routing the oil cooler lines to the front of the car, which is a VERY tight fit. EGM-136 Builder 1 Oil Cooler Adapter 1 x 2016+ Camaro SS/ZL1 & CTS-V Oil Cooler Adapter EGM-136 Factory Water-to-Oil Cooler Delete Kit 1 x 6th Gen Camaro SS / ZL1 Factory Oil Cooler Delete Kit E6G-680 Adapter Fittings 2 x RaceFlux -10AN O-Ring Boss to -10AN Male Flare Adapter Fitting OM-10-10 Setrab Oil Cooler Configurator 1 Oil Cooler 1 x Setrab 60-Row, Series 6 Oil Cooler 50-660-7612 RaceFlux Adapter Fittings for Setrab Oil Coolers 2 x RaceFlux -10AN Male Flare to M22 O-Ring Adapter Fitting $8.90 OM-M22-10 Setrab Cooler Brackets 1 x Setrab Series 6 Oil Cooler Mounting Bracket (Also Fits Mocal 235) ABKT-235 Setrab Oil Cooler Mounting Bracket (Also Fits Mocal) Part #: ABKT-235 |
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10-21-2020, 06:13 PM | #20 |
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10-21-2020, 06:26 PM | #21 | |
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10-22-2020, 10:55 AM | #22 |
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I'm torn between the Improved w/ setrab and the C&R methods.
Unproven, just my thoughts at the moment: the C&R will probably do a better job of cooling the oil when the car is moving, may be an issue in traffic (probably won't be generating much heat though) and not sure how/if IAT will climb faster. Improved method worked well on my 5th gen 1LE, but the ZL1 has the intercooler added to the mix (concerned about stacking too many coolers and airflow through the stack) I saw a thread once about locating an aux oil cooler 'under' the car, but don't recall where or how it would be mounted.?. EDIT: I'm unmodified, but high ambient temps for most of the year are my issue. The first session out is the fastest and the car slows down the rest of the day and temps climb.......to the point I get concerned and dial it back
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10-24-2020, 04:08 AM | #24 |
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10-25-2020, 08:41 AM | #25 |
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Did you go from stock power to 740whp, or where there intermediate steps (for track use, ignoring the street)?
My thinking is to use a 2650 to make “only” 625-650 whp. The 2650 is so much more efficient at that power level than the stock blower. I think if that’s the power goal and you can get there with stock headers- just blower, tb, tune- it might be manageable. |
10-25-2020, 08:43 AM | #26 | |
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Aftermarket Oil Cooler? Where?
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Stock to 740whp; yes. If you just want 625. Do the JRE 125. I’m running the car in TT1 and needed the power given the cars weight. Then do the entire C&R setup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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10-25-2020, 08:50 AM | #27 |
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Have you been able to test with the C&R setup?
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10-25-2020, 09:01 AM | #28 |
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There’s a forum member that has tested with the set up. C&R have all the data a lot of logging and lots of information from labs from that customer at VIR. I’ve also talk to everybody from Mark Martin and R stands for race and several others. A secondary oil cooler resolves all the problems. Being able to put it on the side and replace the secondary heat exchanger it is a huge bonus. I had my headers done by header shield, they should ship to Jannetty Tuesday or Weds. Heat is the enemy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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