[DanSS24]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

That is freaking incredible.

A couple of notes....

The Nordschleife is a 12.9mi long course. On short track like we have in the US, any car within a second of each other is considered comparable in performance. Those tracks are usually something between 2.5 and 3 miles long. SO.....the Nurburgring Nordschleife course is approximately 3 of those laps in one....Very arduous. It also means that the time differences need to be scaled up.

Anything on that track within 3.5 seconds of each other is of comparable performance.

Here are some historical times to chew on.


7:12.13 - 2010 Dodge Viper ACR
7:19.63 - 2012 Chevy Corvette ZR1(sport Cup)
7:22.68 - 2012 Chevy Corvette Z06
7:24.44 - 2008 Pagani Zonda F
7:25.21 - 2010 Ferarri Enzo
7:26.40 - 2009 Chevy Corvette ZR1 (stock tires)
7:28.00 - 2016 Lamborghini Huracán
7:29.60 - 2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1
7:32.00 - Porsche 911 GT2
7:32.92 - Ferarri 458 Italia
7:33.33 - 2010 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
7:33.55 - 2008 Koenigsegg CCX
7:35.00 - 2015 McLaren 650S Spider
7:37.40 - 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28
7:38.00 - 2010 Lexus LFA
7:40.00 - 2005 Bugatti Veyron 16.4
7:41.27 - 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1


Also worth noting...the Corvette ZR1 hit a top speed of 178 on the back straight of the 'Ring. The Z/28 hit 160, and the last-gen ZL1 hit 168......The new ZL1 reached 180.

Thank you for this. I was wondering about the current fastest times.

Originally Posted by Childs Play

Oh I know. I was being facetious. I've seen guys over there try to argue that the GT350R is better than the SS like it's on the same level. That's where I was going with that.

I'm not knocking the GT350. It's an awesome car. I expect the GT500 to be an awesome machine as well. Just taking some friendly jabs at our "rivals" over there.

Either side you're on; It's a great time to be a car guy.

BTW, I was watching this in my office, full volume with my ear phones on. People were coming up to me looking at me, like, "what the hell is wrong with you!?!" I didn't know I was swearing too loud when he reached 181mph.

[JAZ]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

The GT350 and GT350R are obviously designed purely for the road course. Especially with the high reving engine and the carbon fiber and aero pieces on the R. I would think that the GT500 is going to be focused on being more of a touring car with a ton of horsepower and great for the drag strip. Similar to the Gen 5 ZL1, it was decent on the road course but the Z/28 was the road course Camaro. Similarly I think the GT500 will be decent on a road course but the GT350(R) is the road course Mustang.

I think we are almost on the same page.

The 2018 GT350R will be NA with some upgrades to the 5.2 FPC. Port and DI? Rumors include a 6 speed DCT. It will be homologated to GT4 for IMSA, PWC, and FIA. I hope to see the NA Z28 (and/or 1LE) also homologate to GT4.

Chatter on M6G is also about a new GT500 with a 5.2 CPC Hot V Turbo based on the GT350 underpinnings plus Port & DI, A10 and putting out 700+HP, but who knows. Like the new ZL1, the GT500 will not qualify for GT4, but will be a capable track and strip car. Maybe they could meet in GT3?

[Retro69]

Originally Posted by Obzen

needs more supercharger whine

Priceless!!

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[ForgedReality]

And again, the track is wet, just like last gen. When are they gonna test on a dry track? >:/

[Squatch]

I thought I was the only one who noticed the rain on the windshield, or where those bug splats?

[jonny5cam]

Originally Posted by mlee

Super car times!!! Unreal...

That time just verified it as a "supercar".

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by JAZ

Chatter on M6G is also about a new GT500 with a 5.2 CPC Hot V Turbo based on the GT350 underpinnings plus Port & DI, A10 and putting out 700+HP, but who knows.

I saw an article claiming that the GT500 will have a FPC Voodoo with either super or turbo charging. Here's the link:

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobile...tml/?a=viewall

The article claims this as one of the five things we "know" about the new GT500. Is there any credibility to the CPC claim on M6G? The two sources seem to contradict each other.

[6spdhyperblue]

dont feed the trolls

[Mr. Wyndham]

Let's keep the conversation focused on the ZL1, and it's Nordschleife lap time, please. At least in this thread.

[John Galtman]

Meh, hardly got to the 180mph... Same stupid downforce as the z06. 650hp must do much better than that. Cts -v will be faster in the straigh line

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by John Galtman

Meh, hardly got to the 180mph... Same stupid downforce as the z06. 650hp must do much better than that. Cts -v will be faster in the straigh line

?????

CTS-V can't TOUCH that lap time....

[Childs Play]

Originally Posted by John Galtman

Meh, hardly got to the 180mph... Same stupid downforce as the z06. 650hp must do much better than that. Cts -v will be faster in the straigh line

lol..?

Oh you know. *yawn* ONLY 180 MPH.

Back in my day my truck could do 180 mph uphill in the snow.

[John Galtman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

?????

CTS-V can't TOUCH that lap time....

Yeah, the time is very impressive though. Faster than the r8 .. Cool.
But I do care about the straigh line...Cause often drive on the autobahns. 150 mph here is nothin'... Maybe this was some track version with stage 1-2... aero or smth..

[DenverTaco07]

^^ yeah, only 180, i'm surprised the driver wasn't sipping a latte.