A10 or M6 for my situation - Page 2

Sweptwing · 09-19-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CBren

So much good insight just from a few short replies. Thank you guys so much, really appreciate it. Seems like my guesses were correct when people tend to sway me towards A10 for my situation. Just can't imaging getting board with a 70,000$ car haha.

Drive both then go with your gut!

Outahand · 09-19-2019, 02:45 PM

I have an A10 18 ZL1 with zero regrets.

I do daily drive it. As it should be with a vehicle like this. Not driving to keep miles low for resale value is like not banging the misses to keep her fresh for the next guy.

At full throttle things happen pretty quick in this car and this trans seems to do everything right and always be in the right gear at the right time. Performance transmission mode is a thing of beauty imho.

I have done a track day and ripped out down the 1/4 mile. Worked great.

Good Luck with your decision......

Apexslayer · 09-19-2019, 04:10 PM

I have an M6... ...Not sure if I would have as much connection with car if it was an A10. My rule of thumb is A for commuter vehicles, A/PDKs for fastest lap times, M for most connection/fun!

RAT Raceway · 09-19-2019, 05:39 PM

My 13 ZL1 was a M6 and now my ZLE is as well. I daily (in the summer) traffic and all wouldn't change it for anything. No 3ed peddle= No way for me.

Apexslayer · 09-23-2019, 08:44 AM

One advantage of the Automatic is you only need one hand :-). Just had stitches put in a couple of fingers and had to cancel two track day weekends as I have a Manual.

Getnlwr · 09-24-2019, 11:58 PM

I have a manual 6 in the Viper and the A10 in the Zl1.

I bought my ZL1 as a daily driver and it's been fun at that! All of my cars have been manuals. The Zl1 was my first auto. The dealer let me test drive one that was used and said I could flog it if I wanted to. I loved it. I'm still happy I went with the A10. I feel more connected in the Viper. I feel more comfortable in the ZL1. Both have their plus side. I chose the A10, as I am in a high traffic area, and am using it as a commuter... one badass commuter car.

nicktechla · 09-25-2019, 12:13 AM

Get the A10.. The feeling of it ripping through gears at WOT is amazing! Coming from a former manual guy.

CBren · 09-25-2019, 01:45 AM

Really appreciate all the comments guys, best community ever.

G37Sam · 09-25-2019, 01:32 PM

The A10 is an absolute beast. Upshifts make you think it's a Dual Clutch actually. Downshifts are also some of the best I've seen on anything with a Torque Converter.

So unless you really want a manual you shouldn't get one. The fact that you're asking makes me think you'll probably regret buying one. Especially if your commute involves a lot of stop and go traffic.

I waited 6 months for my 6MT as we had to custom order it. I'm not chasing quarter miles or lap times - it's all about the 3 pedals and rowing my own gears. The 6MT has a nice throw and a sharp shifter feel, absolutely love it.

CBren · 09-25-2019, 03:32 PM

So, considering I do not have a long commute and El Paso traffic isn't to bad, seems I've decided to go with a manual. I found a 2017 with 8.3k overall miles, but with a failed oil pump around 7.8k miles under GM warranty the there was a new engine crate installed and the engine # shows it's a 2019 engine build, with only 500 miles on it. Seems like I am getting a brand new engine not even fully broken in, manual with some small cosmetic mods and a 10/10 interior for 47k. Seems like a steal to me. Any input?

LT4Greg · 09-25-2019, 03:48 PM

Yes a good deal for that 2017! If the replacement engine doesn’t worry you then I say go for it if you really like and want it!

Plasar · 09-25-2019, 05:11 PM

Question: why does a failed fuel pump = crate engine replacement?

CBren · 09-25-2019, 06:10 PM

Shiittt, I said fuel pump I meant to say oil pump very sorry. But no, I feel having a brand new 2019 would actually be good? What's your thoughts on that?

CBren · 09-26-2019, 01:10 PM

Any concerns I should have with the 2019 replacement crate engine? I feel since it's a brand new engine and a 2019 build it should be pretty reliable and it seems the 2019 builds dont have the oil pump issues like some of the builds from 2017. Should I be concerned with the new crate or the opposite? Thank you

09-19-2019, 02:45 PM	#16
Outahand Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 135	I have an A10 18 ZL1 with zero regrets. I do daily drive it. As it should be with a vehicle like this. Not driving to keep miles low for resale value is like not banging the misses to keep her fresh for the next guy. At full throttle things happen pretty quick in this car and this trans seems to do everything right and always be in the right gear at the right time. Performance transmission mode is a thing of beauty imho. I have done a track day and ripped out down the 1/4 mile. Worked great. Good Luck with your decision...... __________________ Mark E. 2018 ZL1 NGM A10 87 Grand National. Modified Hot Rod for sale SOLD 87 Grand National. Stock 65 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon Grand National motor/tran 66 Bronco Rockbuggy 2006 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins 6 speed

09-25-2019, 12:13 AM	#21
nicktechla Drives: 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,776	Get the A10.. The feeling of it ripping through gears at WOT is amazing! Coming from a former manual guy. __________________ IG: 2fast2nick -- Current -- 2012 Porsche Turbo S - PDK - Basalt Black Metallic -- Past -- 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe - Red Hot - A10, PDR - HRE P101 2015 Mustang GT PP - Whipple Supercharger

09-25-2019, 03:32 PM	#24
CBren Drives: 2017 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Bliss, Texas Posts: 54	So, considering I do not have a long commute and El Paso traffic isn't to bad, seems I've decided to go with a manual. I found a 2017 with 8.3k overall miles, but with a failed oil pump around 7.8k miles under GM warranty the there was a new engine crate installed and the engine # shows it's a 2019 engine build, with only 500 miles on it. Seems like I am getting a brand new engine not even fully broken in, manual with some small cosmetic mods and a 10/10 interior for 47k. Seems like a steal to me. Any input? Last edited by CBren; 09-25-2019 at 06:11 PM.

09-25-2019, 03:48 PM	#25
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Yes a good deal for that 2017! If the replacement engine doesn’t worry you then I say go for it if you really like and want it! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

09-19-2019, 04:10 PM	#17
Apexslayer Drives: Zl1 1le Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 183	I have an M6... ...Not sure if I would have as much connection with car if it was an A10. My rule of thumb is A for commuter vehicles, A/PDKs for fastest lap times, M for most connection/fun!

09-19-2019, 05:39 PM	#18
RAT Raceway Drives: ZL1-1LE, 5th Gen COPO Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Mile High Denver Colorado Posts: 36	My 13 ZL1 was a M6 and now my ZLE is as well. I daily (in the summer) traffic and all wouldn't change it for anything. No 3ed peddle= No way for me.

09-23-2019, 08:44 AM	#19
Apexslayer Drives: Zl1 1le Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 183	One advantage of the Automatic is you only need one hand :-). Just had stitches put in a couple of fingers and had to cancel two track day weekends as I have a Manual.

09-24-2019, 11:58 PM	#20
Getnlwr Drives: '21 ZL1 A10 '08 SRT10 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Washington Posts: 132	I have a manual 6 in the Viper and the A10 in the Zl1. I bought my ZL1 as a daily driver and it's been fun at that! All of my cars have been manuals. The Zl1 was my first auto. The dealer let me test drive one that was used and said I could flog it if I wanted to. I loved it. I'm still happy I went with the A10. I feel more connected in the Viper. I feel more comfortable in the ZL1. Both have their plus side. I chose the A10, as I am in a high traffic area, and am using it as a commuter... one badass commuter car.

09-25-2019, 01:45 AM	#22
CBren Drives: 2017 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Bliss, Texas Posts: 54	Really appreciate all the comments guys, best community ever.

09-25-2019, 01:32 PM	#23
G37Sam Drives: 2019 ZL1 6MT Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Doha, Qatar Posts: 64	The A10 is an absolute beast. Upshifts make you think it's a Dual Clutch actually. Downshifts are also some of the best I've seen on anything with a Torque Converter. So unless you really want a manual you shouldn't get one. The fact that you're asking makes me think you'll probably regret buying one. Especially if your commute involves a lot of stop and go traffic. I waited 6 months for my 6MT as we had to custom order it. I'm not chasing quarter miles or lap times - it's all about the 3 pedals and rowing my own gears. The 6MT has a nice throw and a sharp shifter feel, absolutely love it.

09-25-2019, 05:11 PM	#26
Plasar Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert M6 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 477	Question: why does a failed fuel pump = crate engine replacement?

09-25-2019, 06:10 PM	#27
CBren Drives: 2017 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Bliss, Texas Posts: 54	Shiittt, I said fuel pump I meant to say oil pump very sorry. But no, I feel having a brand new 2019 would actually be good? What's your thoughts on that?

09-26-2019, 01:10 PM	#28
CBren Drives: 2017 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Bliss, Texas Posts: 54	Any concerns I should have with the 2019 replacement crate engine? I feel since it's a brand new engine and a 2019 build it should be pretty reliable and it seems the 2019 builds dont have the oil pump issues like some of the builds from 2017. Should I be concerned with the new crate or the opposite? Thank you

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