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Thr3zus · 01-17-2021, 08:11 PM

Hello everyone I am asking for help & suggestions on the next step of my build. Current mods are listed in the signature place below.

But I am currently upgrading -

TSP Stage 3 Cam w/ VVT Delete
Corsa Extreme Cat-Back Exhaust
New Powerbond Pulley System
(This what I currently have and waiting to be installed)

Now, this is where I need help & suggestion for more supporting mods:
(What I am thinking so far)

Suspension (Full)
3.91 Ratio Ring & Pinion set (maybe Richmond installation Kit, no idea what that is)
ZL1 fuel pump with bigger Injectors (or any other is better opinion)
Bigger tires
Driveshaft (unless stock can hold enough)

(I believe I am forgetting things but lets start here)
intermediate level of knowlegede, so description and helpful tips and suggestion much appreciated. Trying to learn more.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 01-17-2021, 09:25 PM

It really depends on what this build goal is. I had the Richmond 3.91's and they are strong, no wine, and tons of fun. Make sure the installer knows how to setup a rear or you can wind up with a wine or worse.

Fual wise a ZL1 pump is good to around 700hp give or take. If you plan on more than do a dual pump now. Anything from 1000 to 1300 injectors can hold you well into 4 figures hp wise.

Big power requires good rubber. Drag radials is the way to go. Most run 305's.

Thr3zus · 01-17-2021, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFlyingBananaSS

It really depends on what this build goal is. I had the Richmond 3.91's and they are strong, no wine, and tons of fun. Make sure the installer knows how to setup a rear or you can wind up with a wine or worse.

Fual wise a ZL1 pump is good to around 700hp give or take. If you plan on more than do a dual pump now. Anything from 1000 to 1300 injectors can hold you well into 4 figures hp wise.

Big power requires good rubber. Drag radials is the way to go. Most run 305's.

Thanks for the information. Currently I'm trying to keep slowly building it as I can. Boosted with be down the road. But add mods to car making sure when I can boost I have every helping part already installed.

What your opinion on the suspension and driveshaft?

TheFlyingBananaSS · 01-18-2021, 08:28 AM

At some point you will need suspension upgrades. I did mine as the power grew. I fully expect to break an axle or driveshaft this coming season.

Vegas Bound · 01-18-2021, 08:24 PM

ZL1 3.73 diff, axles and BMR suspension.

Thr3zus · 01-19-2021, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

ZL1 3.73 diff, axles and BMR suspension.

I did get a quote from BMR awhile back for a full suspension kit.

Do you know a good website for pricing?

Thr3zus · 01-19-2021, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFlyingBananaSS

At some point you will need suspension upgrades. I did mine as the power grew. I fully expect to break an axle or driveshaft this coming season.

I assumed that just seeing what people opinion and options on it

CamaroDreams76 · 01-19-2021, 08:42 AM

Trailing arms, toe links, solid rear subframe bushings, Eaton trutrac, lpw diff cover, dss or gforce axles.

The trailing arms, toe links and bushings will nearly eliminate wheel hop which is the most detrimental thing to the rear. The trutrac will give you a posi rear end and will help with not snapping the ring and pinion gear. Lpw diff cover, idk everyone that does the trutrac has one. Axles, welll thats a no brainer, thats the weakest part in the rear of the car. Stock cars have broken the axles.

Vegas Bound · 01-20-2021, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thr3zus

I did get a quote from BMR awhile back for a full suspension kit.

Do you know a good website for pricing?

I got everything from ADM in Dallas, price wasn't a concern for me.

LCPLPunk · 01-20-2021, 06:47 PM

No need for ZL1 pump/injectors yet. Driveshaft isn't really worth the money, suspension, yep..I'd repeat what I've done save for having to swap to newer control arms as you already have them.

Sales@Phastek · 01-21-2021, 05:20 PM

CamaroDreams76 said it well. I would go suspension and drivetrain first. It'll make the car a lot more fun to drive and you will be ready for any power adders afterwords. Trailing arms, toe links, solid rear subframe bushings and axles all first for sure. They will benefit you whether you decide to set your suspension up for drag or street/autocross.

-Sean

InFiD3ViL · 01-21-2021, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFlyingBananaSS

I fully expect to break an axle or driveshaft this coming season.

Now that's the spirit!

LCPLPunk · 01-21-2021, 07:46 PM

If it breaks, consider that an opportunity to upgrade! LOL

Bo White · 01-22-2021, 05:57 AM

Go to a Circle D 4000-4200

01-17-2021, 08:11 PM	#1
Thr3zus Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Worthington Posts: 153	Need Help / Suggestions Hello everyone I am asking for help & suggestions on the next step of my build. Current mods are listed in the signature place below. But I am currently upgrading - TSP Stage 3 Cam w/ VVT Delete Corsa Extreme Cat-Back Exhaust New Powerbond Pulley System (This what I currently have and waiting to be installed) Now, this is where I need help & suggestion for more supporting mods: (What I am thinking so far) Suspension (Full) 3.91 Ratio Ring & Pinion set (maybe Richmond installation Kit, no idea what that is) ZL1 fuel pump with bigger Injectors (or any other is better opinion) Bigger tires Driveshaft (unless stock can hold enough) (I believe I am forgetting things but lets start here) intermediate level of knowlegede, so description and helpful tips and suggestion much appreciated. Trying to learn more. __________________ TSP Stage 2 L99VVT-2.2 Camshaft 227/239, .629/.629, 113 LSA, Circle D Converter 3000-3200 PRC 260cc, Cylinder Head (Ported for the camshaft) TSP.660" Dual Spring Kit w/ PAC Dual Springs & Titanium Retainers, 2.165"/1.59" Stainless Valves w/ Hollow Stem Intake, Comp Phase Limiter, 7.5" Push Length Rod, New GM VVT Camshaft Bolts, D.O.D Delete Kit, Ported Intake Manifold, Kooks High Flow Catted-Long Tube Headers, Flowmaster Outlaw Cat-back Exhausts Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake, 95MM Throttle Body Tuned on 91 Octane Gas

01-17-2021, 09:25 PM	#2
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	It really depends on what this build goal is. I had the Richmond 3.91's and they are strong, no wine, and tons of fun. Make sure the installer knows how to setup a rear or you can wind up with a wine or worse. Fual wise a ZL1 pump is good to around 700hp give or take. If you plan on more than do a dual pump now. Anything from 1000 to 1300 injectors can hold you well into 4 figures hp wise. Big power requires good rubber. Drag radials is the way to go. Most run 305's. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

01-18-2021, 08:28 AM	#4
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	At some point you will need suspension upgrades. I did mine as the power grew. I fully expect to break an axle or driveshaft this coming season. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

01-19-2021, 08:42 AM	#8
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,072 View My Garage	Trailing arms, toe links, solid rear subframe bushings, Eaton trutrac, lpw diff cover, dss or gforce axles. The trailing arms, toe links and bushings will nearly eliminate wheel hop which is the most detrimental thing to the rear. The trutrac will give you a posi rear end and will help with not snapping the ring and pinion gear. Lpw diff cover, idk everyone that does the trutrac has one. Axles, welll thats a no brainer, thats the weakest part in the rear of the car. Stock cars have broken the axles. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

01-20-2021, 06:47 PM	#10
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	No need for ZL1 pump/injectors yet. Driveshaft isn't really worth the money, suspension, yep..I'd repeat what I've done save for having to swap to newer control arms as you already have them. __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

01-18-2021, 08:24 PM	#5
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	ZL1 3.73 diff, axles and BMR suspension.

01-21-2021, 05:20 PM	#11
Sales@Phastek Drives: 2016 1SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,817	CamaroDreams76 said it well. I would go suspension and drivetrain first. It'll make the car a lot more fun to drive and you will be ready for any power adders afterwords. Trailing arms, toe links, solid rear subframe bushings and axles all first for sure. They will benefit you whether you decide to set your suspension up for drag or street/autocross. -Sean

01-21-2021, 07:46 PM	#13
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	If it breaks, consider that an opportunity to upgrade! LOL __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

01-22-2021, 05:57 AM	#14
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Go to a Circle D 4000-4200