18" vs 19s" - Page 3

kropscamaro16 · 11-20-2020, 11:03 AM

ill show him these!

Alpha1BC · 11-20-2020, 11:14 AM

I'm highly skeptical of studs that cost $1. Sounds like a sheared stud or lost wheel waiting to happen.

As for other extended studs, the studs off of the pickup trucks are the same grade material and everything as the Camaro and are 8mm longer. I made that swap a few months ago. Even fit using the stock lug nuts and wheels without punching through the face of the lug nut like the ARP ones would if anyone is switching between aftermarket and OEM wheels frequently. GM part number is 11588810.

TheRealJA105 · 11-20-2020, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveC113

Apex has 18s that fit SLE brakes according their guide.

I was thinking 315/30/18 square. Was considering the Falken 660s but pricing is much higher vs 305/19 for some reason so I'll prolly go with A052s.

The Yoks cost even more

DaveC113 · 11-20-2020, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

The Yoks cost even more

Yeah, but only +~$200/set. 305/19 660s are under $300/tire but then the 315/18s are closer to $350/tire. At <$300 I was prepared to risk it and hope the 660s worked out, but at $350 I'll go w/ A052s, which are just under $400.

TheRealJA105 · 11-20-2020, 12:30 PM

Can't argue with the proven tire. They are way too expensive for me to even consider for TT with how fast they cord. Plus I don't have 18s. Though it seems if you want to win, you better be on them.

kropscamaro16 · 02-05-2021, 11:15 AM

so are most guys with 19s running staggered setup or square?

rotis · 02-05-2021, 12:24 PM

I've run 18" and 19" on my ZLE. For me, the wheel size is dictated by the fastest 200tw tire. This probably sounds crazy and backwards, but when it comes down to it I'm just doing what is required to get the fastest tire on the car.

I am starting this season with 18x12 and 315/30-18 A052 all-around. On the same wheels I could also run RT660 or CR-1 in the same size. (I am not on stock struts)

I don't know what most people are doing with 19's, but my last 19" setup was 19x11 +40 square, with camber plates you can run the front with 25mm spacers and still keep the tire off the SS fender. This is a pretty tight squeeze, anything wider requires strut work.

DaveC113 · 02-05-2021, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rotis

I've run 18" and 19" on my ZLE. For me, the wheel size is dictated by the fastest 200tw tire. This probably sounds crazy and backwards, but when it comes down to it I'm just doing what is required to get the fastest tire on the car.

I am starting this season with 18x12 and 315/30-18 A052 all-around. On the same wheels I could also run RT660 or CR-1 in the same size. (I am not on stock struts)

I don't know what most people are doing with 19's, but my last 19" setup was 19x11 +40 square, with camber plates you can run the front with 25mm spacers and still keep the tire off the SS fender. This is a pretty tight squeeze, anything wider requires strut work.

I'm thinking the same... What offset and spacers (if any) are you running?

I'm stock but will probably go with camber plates up front to help with clearance, grinding a bit of strut for more clearance wouldn't bother me.

kropscamaro16 · 02-05-2021, 12:49 PM

yea i got 2 quotes on 19s both were 19x10 19x11 squared seems to be more rare for some reason

wanted to do 2853019 3053019 but no options only 2853519 3053019

rotis · 02-05-2021, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC113

I'm thinking the same... What offset and spacers (if any) are you running?

I'm stock but will probably go with camber plates up front to help with clearance, grinding a bit of strut for more clearance wouldn't bother me.

My 18x12's are BCs with custom offsets. It's not really viable unless you are running offset MCS struts and/or plan to do some fender cutting. With stock struts and fenders you and do 19x11 without too much trouble.

Scargoes · 02-05-2021, 07:05 PM

Krops, I think you'll either need to do factory ZLE, custom or go APEX to get 11" front wheels. And frankly, I wouldn't go with 10" in the front unless you couldn't go wider because of competition rules.

Blackmonba6Gen · 03-16-2021, 09:42 AM

I have the apex arc 8 with 19x10 et 20 and 19x11 et 43 and i run a 285/35 front and 325/30 rear for track days. I haven't had any issues. I love the tire setup. I'm considering buying two more 19x11 wheels for the front just for go square and rotate.

kropscamaro16 · 03-16-2021, 10:41 AM

yea even with 19s unless you are squared the sizes are kind of wonky lol what tires are you running in that sizes?

Sorange · 03-16-2021, 11:03 PM

I went with 18's on my ZLE to allow a better selection of slicks/R-comps. the 18" combo also weighs about 37lbs less than the stock 19's. I went with BC forged due to them being fully forged. Apex wheels are flow formed and not quite as strong. I know a lot of people have successfully used apex wheels for a while with no problem, but i didn't want the risk. I think a lot of people go with Apex based off price point. They sent me an email and will be offering a discounted rate on their new 18" setup for Camaros coming out soon. if interested shoot them an email and ask about the pre production price.

11-20-2020, 11:03 AM	#29
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,813	ill show him these! __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

11-20-2020, 11:14 AM	#30
Alpha1BC Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 1,001	I'm highly skeptical of studs that cost $1. Sounds like a sheared stud or lost wheel waiting to happen. As for other extended studs, the studs off of the pickup trucks are the same grade material and everything as the Camaro and are 8mm longer. I made that swap a few months ago. Even fit using the stock lug nuts and wheels without punching through the face of the lug nut like the ARP ones would if anyone is switching between aftermarket and OEM wheels frequently. GM part number is 11588810. __________________ 2017 SS 1LE.

02-05-2021, 11:15 AM	#34
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,813	so are most guys with 19s running staggered setup or square? __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

02-05-2021, 12:49 PM	#37
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,813	yea i got 2 quotes on 19s both were 19x10 19x11 squared seems to be more rare for some reason wanted to do 2853019 3053019 but no options only 2853519 3053019 __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

02-05-2021, 07:05 PM	#39
Scargoes Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Dessert Posts: 486	Krops, I think you'll either need to do factory ZLE, custom or go APEX to get 11" front wheels. And frankly, I wouldn't go with 10" in the front unless you couldn't go wider because of competition rules. __________________ 2018 Hyper Blue Metallic 2SS 1LE with Nav, PDR, and track alignment 1:34.20 Willow Springs Big Track

11-20-2020, 12:30 PM	#33
TheRealJA105 Drives: 2013 C6Z06 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: PA Posts: 1,577	Can't argue with the proven tire. They are way too expensive for me to even consider for TT with how fast they cord. Plus I don't have 18s. Though it seems if you want to win, you better be on them.

02-05-2021, 12:24 PM	#35
rotis Drives: 2019 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bastrop, TX Posts: 438	I've run 18" and 19" on my ZLE. For me, the wheel size is dictated by the fastest 200tw tire. This probably sounds crazy and backwards, but when it comes down to it I'm just doing what is required to get the fastest tire on the car. I am starting this season with 18x12 and 315/30-18 A052 all-around. On the same wheels I could also run RT660 or CR-1 in the same size. (I am not on stock struts) I don't know what most people are doing with 19's, but my last 19" setup was 19x11 +40 square, with camber plates you can run the front with 25mm spacers and still keep the tire off the SS fender. This is a pretty tight squeeze, anything wider requires strut work.

03-16-2021, 09:42 AM	#40
Blackmonba6Gen BLUPRINT_1LE Drives: 2022 Rapid Blue SS 1LE Join Date: May 2017 Location: Motor City -> AZ Posts: 726	I have the apex arc 8 with 19x10 et 20 and 19x11 et 43 and i run a 285/35 front and 325/30 rear for track days. I haven't had any issues. I love the tire setup. I'm considering buying two more 19x11 wheels for the front just for go square and rotate. __________________ 2022 Camaro SS 1LE \| PDR \| Rapid Blue \| Manual \| Katech Built SS 1LE \| Katech Build Sheet IG: BLUPRINT_1LE YT: BLUPRINT_1LE ----------------------------------------------------------------

03-16-2021, 10:41 AM	#41
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,813	yea even with 19s unless you are squared the sizes are kind of wonky lol what tires are you running in that sizes? __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

03-16-2021, 11:03 PM	#42
Sorange Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: May 2020 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 110	I went with 18's on my ZLE to allow a better selection of slicks/R-comps. the 18" combo also weighs about 37lbs less than the stock 19's. I went with BC forged due to them being fully forged. Apex wheels are flow formed and not quite as strong. I know a lot of people have successfully used apex wheels for a while with no problem, but i didn't want the risk. I think a lot of people go with Apex based off price point. They sent me an email and will be offering a discounted rate on their new 18" setup for Camaros coming out soon. if interested shoot them an email and ask about the pre production price.

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