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Old 03-18-2019, 01:51 PM   #29
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I always use K&N oil filters because the internals are All metal. No cardboard.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:19 PM   #30
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I always use K&N oil filters because the internals are All metal. No cardboard.
Do you have a link to the one you use?
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:37 PM   #31
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Do you have a link to the one you use?
I use the HP-1017. Here is the link on K&N's website
https://www.knfilters.com/oil-filter...o-ss/6.2l/2017
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:39 PM   #32
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Anyone have a preference in oil filters? I change mine out either every oil change or every other
I go with ACDelco PF64. It's the OE filter. Here's the amazon link.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:43 PM   #33
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Great thanks guys! Think I will go with the 0W-40esp oil that is now the factory fill in 19+ and the OEM filter. Seems like the best route for dd and track use
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Old 03-18-2019, 04:59 PM   #34
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I use the ACDelco PF64. Have never had a filter related issue with the PF filters in nearly 40 years and well over 500,000 miles in various GM vehicles. Worked at a GM dealer for over 15 years and never saw any problems other than someone double gasketing when the old gasket stuck to the block.

Heard the Wix filters are suppose to be real good and to stay far away from the Fram filter.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:06 PM   #35
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I've been using Valvoline 5W-40 MST for DD and track with PF64, no need to change oil. Blackstone analysis has been perfect. If NAPA doesn't have it on sale, then the local Wal-Mart stocks it at a low price
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:43 AM   #36
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I've been using Motul X-clean 5w40 Dexos2 for over a year now, including 8 track days last year, without issue. Though I don't have a UOA to show.

https://www.amazon.com/Motul-X-Clean.../dp/B00I5FPE9E
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:00 PM   #37
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So is that Valvoline advanced MST the same as this Valvoline which is also Dexos approved? If I am not going to the track, is 0W40 supposed to be run on the streets now?
Modern Engine and MST are not the same oil. Modern Engine was developed to combat against carbon buildup, a common issue with gas direct injection (GDI). Great product, and is what I'd run if I wasn't tracking my car. MST is a Dexos 2 approved product and is what I use. I'm a big Valvoline fan haha

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Old 03-19-2019, 02:51 PM   #38
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So is that Valvoline advanced MST the same as this Valvoline which is also Dexos approved? If I am not going to the track, is 0W40 supposed to be run on the streets now?
Per the reply above these are 2 different Valvoline oils.
MST Dexos2 5w40 is approved for our cars specifically.
Or any 0w40 Dexos2 - per the manual. Both are good for both dd and track use. However, is somebody dd only then manual approves any 5w30 Dexos1 full synthetic, which is much cheaper.

Personally i use MST plus OEM filter per the manual and replace the latter with each oil change (also per the manual btw). Ciao!
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:51 PM   #39
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The new M1 dex2 will be at Walmart eventually, and hopefully for 25$ for 5quarts
i bought the m1 dex2 5w30 at rural king a couple weeks ago for $25.xx / 5 qts.

i see you have an xj. i have an xj, too. 97 2dr 4.0 4wd. 270ish k miles.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:00 PM   #40
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I've been using Motul X-clean 5w40 Dexos2 for over a year now, including 8 track days last year, without issue. Though I don't have a UOA to show.

https://www.amazon.com/Motul-X-Clean.../dp/B00I5FPE9E

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Old 03-21-2019, 08:14 AM   #41
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i bought the m1 dex2 5w30 at rural king a couple weeks ago for $25.xx / 5 qts.

i see you have an xj. i have an xj, too. 97 2dr 4.0 4wd. 270ish k miles.

I think you got Dex1Gen2 as m1 doesn't make a 5w30 that's Dexos2. You want a 40wt for track as you are running elevated oil temps which thin the oil out.

Nice!

I got a 97 as well but it's 4dr miles not so sure but it says 165k

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Old 03-27-2019, 03:35 PM   #42
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I went with summit racing for the 0w-40esp.

My 2 local dealers wanted $15.50 and $23 PER QUART!

I told them they need to lookup case prices and both replied this is the price GM sets.

I told them summit racing (it’s 5 miles from here) sells them for under $10 per quart and they wouldn’t do anything at all. Not sure if my dealers just suck or if they are all like that
It's almost like they don't want to sell any.

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Most importantly: go by what is listed in your owner's manual.

Both the correct weights and the Dexos2 are important.
The former to provide proper protection at cold starts and at high motor temps. The latter to ensure GM has approved such oil based on its chemical composition.

For Camaro SS and ZL1 (but not ZL1 1LE) 2019 manual lists 0w40 Dexos2 as being a factory fill and being approved for both dd and track duty, without a need to change it in between.
5w30 dexos1 synthetic is listed as approved for street ONLY.
15w50 synthetic (sans Dexos) is listed as approved for track ONLY.

In prior year manuals 0w40 Dexos2 AND 5w40 Valvoline MST (specifically) are listed as approved for both street and track. Since then the Valvoline MST has also received a Dexos2 license. In addition the other 2 weights were also listed as above for street only and track only use.

0w40 Dexos2 is likely the best all around oil, especially for anyone driving the car all year around as it maximizes cost start protection and provides high protection for high motor temps. But if somebody just dd their car then 5w30 dexos1 is a much cheaper and approved alternative.

5w40 Dexos2 is likely better for warm summer starts while providing hot moror temps protection the same as the 0w40 Dexos2. But it will be a worse choice for cold starts especially under winter conditions.

Mobil1 does not make 5w40 Dexos2 oil. And since Mobil1 and GM have entered into a commercial agreement we now only see 0w40 Dexos2 listed. And for commercial reasons it makes perfect sense, as Mobil1 had to pay GM license fee to have its oil certified as Dexos2. As much as this is now the case and i have seen many Mobil1 marketing efforts around this oil, i have not seen anything directly from GM that would invalidate the choices listed in earlier owner manuals. And since i run my car in summer only and 5w40 Valvoline MST Dexos2 is easily available where i live - that's what i have been using and will continue to use. Unless GM sends me a formal notification invalidating what is in my official owner's manual that the car came with.

In any case, that's my bottom line - according to me. And according to GM as they wrote the manual my car came with
I just get my oil changed at the dealer.... is that only the Dexos1 stuff?... I already tracked my car on that once but it was a pretty small track... Not really looking forward to a $120 oil change. The ****s at the dealership don't know shit about anything.


I think it's odd 2016-18's call for 5w-30 and now the 2019's call for 0w-40, you have stared why but still weird...
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