2018 Mustang details leaked? - Page 2

Lafourche1 · 11-22-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

So maybe it's dawning on folks now that the Mustang has more options and "content", (and larger price tag), that the Camaro was never really over-priced to begin with....

You get what you pay for perhaps....???

I think it is fair to state that you get more than you paid for. Once again, see how many BMW owners, including M Series owners, are switching to the Camaro.

Ford must be having some second thoughts and looking to try to gain access to part of that conversation.

Rayknee · 11-22-2016, 08:57 PM

Meh, Mustangs never really did it for me. I don't know why, but Camaros and Challengers just have infinitely more character imho. The GT just seems so blah and cookie cutter. As for offering a louder exhaust, it's about freaking time. The biggest complaint about the Mustang is that it's too quiet stock. The fact that they are just getting around to offering what Dodge and GM have been doing for years now leads me to think they were kind of resting on their laurels and just letting their lead wither down like the Hare did with the tortoise.

Also, Ford options are pretty steep in price. If all this comes to pass, it wouldn't surprise me if the Mustang moves up a solid $4000 in MSRP. They've done similar for their trucks with the same tech so I don't think I'm that far off.

The way the Camaro has been taking all the kudos in comparisons lately leads me to think Ford is going all in finally to try to take back the King of the Hill status. While not a fan of the car, I respect the competition keeping each brand on their toes.

VCSRT · 11-22-2016, 09:32 PM

10 speed auto is pretty legit. New Fords just feel cheaply done to me, and I'm a Mopar guy, that should tell you a lot lol.

KMPrenger · 11-23-2016, 08:20 AM

I can't imagine that the 2018, or 2019 Camaro wouldn't also be getting the 10 speed like the 2017 ZL1 will have. I'm going to assume 2018 model year.

I think the 10 speed auto will make for a serious jump in straight line performance in the Mustang over the current 6 speed. But compared to the current GM 8 speed auto, I don't think there will be much of any jump in performance for the Camaro when it gets the 10 speed. My understanding is that the ratios of the first 4 - 6 gears (something like that) are exactly the same in the 8 speed versus the 10...with the 10 having the advantage of shifting a bit faster, not that the 8 speed is any slouch either under WOT conditions.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-23-2016, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I can't imagine that the 2018, or 2019 Camaro wouldn't also be getting the 10 speed like the 2017 ZL1 will have. I'm going to assume 2018 model year.

I think the 10 speed auto will make for a serious jump in straight line performance in the Mustang over the current 6 speed. But compared to the current GM 8 speed auto, I don't think there will be much of any jump in performance for the Camaro when it gets the 10 speed. My understanding is that the ratios of the first 4 - 6 gears (something like that) are exactly the same in the 8 speed versus the 10...with the 10 having the advantage of shifting a bit faster, not that the 8 speed is any slouch either under WOT conditions.

The 10 speed is a bit more aggressive in the lower gears than the 8 speed. It's not dramatic, but they aren't the same.

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KMPrenger · 11-23-2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

The 10 speed is a bit more aggressive in the lower gears than the 8 speed. It's not dramatic, but they aren't the same.

Good info

Michigan1LTRS · 11-23-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

The 10 speed is a bit more aggressive in the lower gears than the 8 speed. It's not dramatic, but they aren't the same.

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In reverse the A10 would crush it out of the hole.

Cuda7050 · 11-23-2016, 08:29 AM

Given the low torque and higher rpm hp characteristics of the 5.0 coyote motor, the 10 speed automatic should really help in the 1/4 mile.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-23-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

In reverse the A10 would crush it out of the hole.

Isn't that crazy?

SpeedIsLife · 11-23-2016, 08:43 AM

Keep in mind that if previous leaks are true..the 5.0 is getting DI for 2018

ChefBorOzzy · 11-23-2016, 12:00 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if GM rides out the 8 speed in the SS and lower trims until new gen..

I'm not sure how much the 10 speed will help the Mustang over the 6 speed auto. maybe .2 in the 1/4 at most.

ParisTNDude · 11-23-2016, 12:27 PM

It would be nice to see them totally committed to matching the Camaro counterpart. I am not understanding dropping the V6 engine. Regardless of HP levels, some people simply wouldn't buy a 4 cylinder under any circumstances. Bravo Ford!

hotlap · 11-23-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

It would be nice to see them totally committed to matching the Camaro counterpart. I am not understanding dropping the V6 engine. Regardless of HP levels, some people simply wouldn't buy a 4 cylinder under any circumstances. Bravo Ford!

Ford appears committed to EcoBoost and are herding the faithful in that direction step by step.

First making the V6 a Mustang base only trim and Ford GT with EcoBoost V6. Now eliminating the Mustang V6 completely.

IOMike · 11-23-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Keep in mind that if previous leaks are true..the 5.0 is getting DI for 2018

It will be very underwhelming if they don't. The performance gap (all aspects) is so large I can't take the Mustang seriously.

11-23-2016, 08:20 AM	#18
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,948	I can't imagine that the 2018, or 2019 Camaro wouldn't also be getting the 10 speed like the 2017 ZL1 will have. I'm going to assume 2018 model year. I think the 10 speed auto will make for a serious jump in straight line performance in the Mustang over the current 6 speed. But compared to the current GM 8 speed auto, I don't think there will be much of any jump in performance for the Camaro when it gets the 10 speed. My understanding is that the ratios of the first 4 - 6 gears (something like that) are exactly the same in the 8 speed versus the 10...with the 10 having the advantage of shifting a bit faster, not that the 8 speed is any slouch either under WOT conditions. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

11-23-2016, 08:29 AM	#22
Cuda7050 Drives: 2012 SS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NorCal Posts: 818	Given the low torque and higher rpm hp characteristics of the 5.0 coyote motor, the 10 speed automatic should really help in the 1/4 mile. __________________ Buttonwillow 2:23.736 Sacramento Raceway 12.89 at 112 mph Thunderhill 2:22.242

11-23-2016, 12:27 PM	#26
ParisTNDude Owning SSes for 50 Years Drives: Sharkskin Grey LT1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Paris, TN Posts: 3,139 View My Garage	It would be nice to see them totally committed to matching the Camaro counterpart. I am not understanding dropping the V6 engine. Regardless of HP levels, some people simply wouldn't buy a 4 cylinder under any circumstances. Bravo Ford! __________________ The new ride: 2023 Camaro, LT1, Sharkskin Grey Previous Performance Cars: 1966 Chevelle SS 4M, 2010 Corvette 6M 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Auto 2012 1SS 6M 1982 Corvette Auto 2010 1SS 6A 1984 Corvette Auto 2016 2SS 8A 1999 Camaro Auto 2017 HBM 1SS 1le 2002 C5 Corvette 6M 2018 2SS 2006 Corvette Auto 2023 Camaro LT1

11-22-2016, 08:57 PM	#16
Rayknee I love fast cars. Period. Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 8AT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: WI/IL State Line Posts: 20 View My Garage	Meh, Mustangs never really did it for me. I don't know why, but Camaros and Challengers just have infinitely more character imho. The GT just seems so blah and cookie cutter. As for offering a louder exhaust, it's about freaking time. The biggest complaint about the Mustang is that it's too quiet stock. The fact that they are just getting around to offering what Dodge and GM have been doing for years now leads me to think they were kind of resting on their laurels and just letting their lead wither down like the Hare did with the tortoise. Also, Ford options are pretty steep in price. If all this comes to pass, it wouldn't surprise me if the Mustang moves up a solid $4000 in MSRP. They've done similar for their trucks with the same tech so I don't think I'm that far off. The way the Camaro has been taking all the kudos in comparisons lately leads me to think Ford is going all in finally to try to take back the King of the Hill status. While not a fan of the car, I respect the competition keeping each brand on their toes.

11-22-2016, 09:32 PM	#17
VCSRT Drives: Jeep Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Arizona Posts: 79	10 speed auto is pretty legit. New Fords just feel cheaply done to me, and I'm a Mopar guy, that should tell you a lot lol.

11-23-2016, 08:43 AM	#24
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,242	Keep in mind that if previous leaks are true..the 5.0 is getting DI for 2018

11-23-2016, 12:00 PM	#25
ChefBorOzzy Drives: 2016 F150 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,196	Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if GM rides out the 8 speed in the SS and lower trims until new gen.. I'm not sure how much the 10 speed will help the Mustang over the 6 speed auto. maybe .2 in the 1/4 at most.

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