17/18 manuals bogging and stalling

Moniker · 01-16-2019, 04:34 PM

Hi all
I currently have a 5th gen ZL1. There is nearly new 2018 ZL1 manual transmission that I’m considering. I’ve been hearing about the 17/18 manuals bogging and stalling. Do all the 18’s have this problem? I see the Chevrolet offers a download that some say fixes the problem. I notice that some people are going to a ported throttled body. I’m wondering if I should just look for an automatic.

Boo · 01-16-2019, 04:54 PM

If you love manual trans then you know you are going to get one. Me...ive had 2 6speeds and was tired of shifting in traffic as well as not being able to control myself to point where im getting a ticket every other month. I only got this A10 after id researched the trans...sounded amazing and honestly i had high hopes. This car with the aA10 has surpassed my wildest expectations. I say you either get a 1LE for the track or an A10 for every other reason. Grear street car...drag strip...daily driver...shit i can get over 28mi/gallon if i want. The performance shift mode is incredible! Special transmission!

17CamaroZL1 · 01-16-2019, 05:41 PM

I'd say go drive it and see what you think. I'm a manual lover, but I would never trade my A10 for one. I'd have one of each if I could afford it and had the garage space.

SteveV · 01-16-2019, 06:56 PM

While the bog is there... After the first week of ownership, I got used to it and just modulate the clutch a tad more than my old 2013 1LE, and give it a touch more throttle.

I am not saying the bog isn't real; but with practice, it becomes a non-issue.

Still thinking about a TM TB, but the car is drive able without it.

Frisbey · 01-16-2019, 07:04 PM

Don’t let the ‘17 / ‘18 M6 bog issue bother you, it a phenomenal car,
I have no problem driving mine, as said before, just a touch of throttle if you’re lugging it off the line.

Manual or A10, you’ll be happy!
Get the 6th Gen

HogmanZL1 · 01-16-2019, 07:34 PM

I love my '18 manual! i dont drive in city traffic much so not much issue there. i read here that there is bog, but i can honestly say i have never noticed nor have i stalled mine from a start. Maybe i got lucky, but most likely i just drive different and/or it doesnt phase me.

I am interested in a TB for even better throttle response according to the others in the group. Seems like a good inexpensive mod plus easy to switch back for warranty work if needed.

good luck. you cant go wrong with either M6 or A10.

bobby35ny · 01-16-2019, 08:40 PM

I have the M6, love and hate it, LOL. Love it because its a manual. Hate it for drag strip bog. If you don't drag race then go M6. If you drag race get the A10.

Pollock · 01-16-2019, 09:39 PM

I have never commented on this topic. But dumping the clutch at high RPMs... What do you think will happen? It will either spin or hook/bogg.

You have to release the clutch in a manner to get the best of both. For drag racing an auto is the most consistent option.

sengli · 01-18-2019, 09:14 AM

The bog is real. I have had two brand new Gen5 camaros, and now this Gen6 ZL1 and all were manual trans. This bog isnt a deal killer, but it is very noticeable. Drive it a little and you kinda get used to it.

But if I dont drive the car for a while, I have stalled it a couple of times just because its just there. The M6 in these cars is so smooth and fun though.

k20attack · 01-18-2019, 01:24 PM

I have an 18 M6 and have honestly never had the bog issue in daily driving. I've tracked the car 3 times at HPD events and never had an issue either. From all that I've read it appears it only happens when launching the car, which I haven't had a chance to do yet, but even if it did bog I wouldn't care since I don't drag race. I think a couple of folks with 17 M6s have reported the issue in daily driving, but maybe that's just a fluke. Also, I had a GEN 5 SS M6 and this manual transmission is way better, a lot smoother. Love the active rev match as well. Shift lights in the HUD are pretty useful as well.

Apexslayer · 01-18-2019, 03:52 PM

The bog is a nonissue - just modulate the clutch. Make your decision based on wether you like auto's or manuals. Personally I prefer manuals in my sports cars/bikes and auto's in everything else.

Infern0 · 01-19-2019, 08:43 AM

Unless you are going to track it frequently, and happen to be good at it, you won't notice a bog.

RAD18ZL1 · 09-08-2020, 10:21 AM

Anyone know the TSB for stalling / bogging in Gen6 ZL1 ? Mine is bad .Tried every way to get a smooth takeoff . I'm 72 and have driven hi performance manual shifting cars since i was 16 so i know how to release a clutch.

gtfoxy · 09-08-2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RAD18ZL1

Anyone know the TSB for stalling / bogging in Gen6 ZL1 ? Mine is bad .Tried every way to get a smooth takeoff . I'm 72 and have driven hi performance manual shifting cars since i was 16 so i know how to release a clutch.

You can try a Soler ported Throttle Body.

01-16-2019, 04:34 PM	#1
Moniker Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 62	17/18 manuals bogging and stalling Hi all I currently have a 5th gen ZL1. There is nearly new 2018 ZL1 manual transmission that I’m considering. I’ve been hearing about the 17/18 manuals bogging and stalling. Do all the 18’s have this problem? I see the Chevrolet offers a download that some say fixes the problem. I notice that some people are going to a ported throttled body. I’m wondering if I should just look for an automatic.

01-16-2019, 05:41 PM	#3
17CamaroZL1 Life's Short, Live Fast! Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue A10 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: London, KY Posts: 2,015	I'd say go drive it and see what you think. I'm a manual lover, but I would never trade my A10 for one. I'd have one of each if I could afford it and had the garage space. __________________ Life's Short, Live Fast! https://youtu.be/rTUv2p4T7OA 10.94 at 128 mph, 11.13 at 127mph 870 DA, https://youtu.be/e_X_LcpFp50 11.19 at 127mph 1100 DA, https://youtu.be/OXQiCQdQuH4 11.40 at 125mph 1800 DA https://youtu.be/uWba1qs8M6Q 11.52 at 123mph 3500 DA TZQPHG '17 ZL1 HBM\|A10\|Nav\|PDR\|CFW Hood\|ZL1 Mats 12/26/2016 Ordered! 2/8/2017 Built!! 3/2/2017 Brought Home!!!

01-16-2019, 06:56 PM	#4
SteveV Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro 6M Red Hot Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,137 View My Garage	While the bog is there... After the first week of ownership, I got used to it and just modulate the clutch a tad more than my old 2013 1LE, and give it a touch more throttle. I am not saying the bog isn't real; but with practice, it becomes a non-issue. Still thinking about a TM TB, but the car is drive able without it. __________________ People are a lot like slinky's: not very helpful most of the time, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs...

01-16-2019, 07:04 PM	#5
Frisbey Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Nightfall Grey Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Whidbey Island, Wa. Posts: 367	Don’t let the ‘17 / ‘18 M6 bog issue bother you, it a phenomenal car, I have no problem driving mine, as said before, just a touch of throttle if you’re lugging it off the line. Manual or A10, you’ll be happy! Get the 6th Gen __________________ 1100 - 10/28/17 Ordered 1100 - 02/02/18 cancelled, Re-ordered from BeckyD 1100 - 02/02/18 \| 3400 - 02/14/18 TPW 2/19 2000 - 02/06/18 \| 4300 - 02/20/18 Built 3000 - 02/07/18 \| 5000 - 03/08/18 At Dealer 3100 - 02/09/18 \| Delivered

01-16-2019, 08:40 PM	#7
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,024	I have the M6, love and hate it, LOL. Love it because its a manual. Hate it for drag strip bog. If you don't drag race then go M6. If you drag race get the A10. __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

01-16-2019, 04:54 PM	#2
Boo Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Nightfall Grey Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Tampa Posts: 315	If you love manual trans then you know you are going to get one. Me...ive had 2 6speeds and was tired of shifting in traffic as well as not being able to control myself to point where im getting a ticket every other month. I only got this A10 after id researched the trans...sounded amazing and honestly i had high hopes. This car with the aA10 has surpassed my wildest expectations. I say you either get a 1LE for the track or an A10 for every other reason. Grear street car...drag strip...daily driver...shit i can get over 28mi/gallon if i want. The performance shift mode is incredible! Special transmission!

01-16-2019, 07:34 PM	#6
HogmanZL1 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 79	I love my '18 manual! i dont drive in city traffic much so not much issue there. i read here that there is bog, but i can honestly say i have never noticed nor have i stalled mine from a start. Maybe i got lucky, but most likely i just drive different and/or it doesnt phase me. I am interested in a TB for even better throttle response according to the others in the group. Seems like a good inexpensive mod plus easy to switch back for warranty work if needed. good luck. you cant go wrong with either M6 or A10.

01-16-2019, 09:39 PM	#8
Pollock LT4 M6 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 1,249	I have never commented on this topic. But dumping the clutch at high RPMs... What do you think will happen? It will either spin or hook/bogg. You have to release the clutch in a manner to get the best of both. For drag racing an auto is the most consistent option.

01-18-2019, 09:14 AM	#9
sengli Drives: 2015commemorative vert 2SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: northern Indiana Posts: 948	The bog is real. I have had two brand new Gen5 camaros, and now this Gen6 ZL1 and all were manual trans. This bog isnt a deal killer, but it is very noticeable. Drive it a little and you kinda get used to it. But if I dont drive the car for a while, I have stalled it a couple of times just because its just there. The M6 in these cars is so smooth and fun though. __________________ 2018 ZL1 Bright Yellow, A10, PDR, sunroof, carbon hood, and dash- sold 2020 2SS A10 sunroof..shock and steel special-traded 2015 commemorative vert 2ss

01-18-2019, 01:24 PM	#10
k20attack Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Boston Posts: 135	I have an 18 M6 and have honestly never had the bog issue in daily driving. I've tracked the car 3 times at HPD events and never had an issue either. From all that I've read it appears it only happens when launching the car, which I haven't had a chance to do yet, but even if it did bog I wouldn't care since I don't drag race. I think a couple of folks with 17 M6s have reported the issue in daily driving, but maybe that's just a fluke. Also, I had a GEN 5 SS M6 and this manual transmission is way better, a lot smoother. Love the active rev match as well. Shift lights in the HUD are pretty useful as well. __________________ 1100-9/17/2017 3000-9/18/2017 Received-12/1/2017

01-18-2019, 03:52 PM	#11
Apexslayer Drives: Zl1 1le Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 183	The bog is a nonissue - just modulate the clutch. Make your decision based on wether you like auto's or manuals. Personally I prefer manuals in my sports cars/bikes and auto's in everything else.

01-19-2019, 08:43 AM	#12
Infern0 Bring It Drives: In Between Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,929 View My Garage	Unless you are going to track it frequently, and happen to be good at it, you won't notice a bog. __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 M6 - Everything but the sunroof - Sold 2010 Camaro SS - 650RWHP Daily Driver - Traded

09-08-2020, 10:21 AM	#13
RAD18ZL1 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: pacific Northwest Posts: 16	Anyone know the TSB for stalling / bogging in Gen6 ZL1 ? Mine is bad .Tried every way to get a smooth takeoff . I'm 72 and have driven hi performance manual shifting cars since i was 16 so i know how to release a clutch.

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