GM caves - cuts ties with data firms

jcharm · 03-22-2024, 06:00 PM

Some good news...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/t...iver-data.html

CHASLT1 · 03-22-2024, 06:04 PM

2 late now i hope and let em go under.

Joshinator99 · 03-22-2024, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CHASLT1

2 late now i hope and let em go under.

Damn straight. They need to learn a lesson otherwise they’ll just do it again.

SS_Don · 03-22-2024, 06:15 PM

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Anjilslaire · 03-22-2024, 06:20 PM

Reader mode in your browser bypasses the paywall. Also, this is good news.

SS_Don · 03-22-2024, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anjilslaire

Reader mode in your browser bypasses the paywall. Also, this is good news.

Nice! Thanks.

Number 3 · 03-22-2024, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anjilslaire

Reader mode in your browser bypasses the paywall. Also, this is good news.

Yes and note you agree to their terms and service which I’m sure includes your data.

Here is a link to a Free Press article.

Check out this article from Detroit Free Press:

GM cuts ties with 2 data firms amid heated lawsuit over driver data

https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...s/73057931007/

LancevanceZLE · 03-22-2024, 07:22 PM

All you folks saying GM will never do anything...do you see how media attention and customer complaints can force a company to fix a bad situation?

Now let's do the same for the theft situation.

Dabjbr · 03-22-2024, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LancevanceZLE

All you folks saying GM will never do anything...do you see how media attention and customer complaints can force a company to fix a bad situation?

Now let's do the same for the theft situation.

Need someone to write an article and put GM on blast!

Dabjbr · 03-22-2024, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabjbr

Need someone to write an article and put GM on blast!

I mean for failing to support owners a solution for car theft. Make that will force them to take action.

Edwardo · 03-22-2024, 08:44 PM

I like the way these companies always state they respect your privacy, except when there's money to be made. In a lot of cases the damage has already been done. Guys are paying more for their insurance and they are wondering why. If this goes to a classic action suit, many may ask for their share. Watch for lawyers to jump on this opportunity.

L2SS455 · 03-22-2024, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LancevanceZLE

All you folks saying GM will never do anything...do you see how media attention and customer complaints can force a company to fix a bad situation?

Now let's do the same for the theft situation.

I agree. JLR changed it ways, after a threatened lawsuit and fixed it security flaws and thefts went way down for it vehicles. Call GM, if you have not already.

L2SS455 · 03-22-2024, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabjbr

Need someone to write an article and put GM on blast!

"The “OBD Port” part of the equation comes to blows with manufacturers. It doesn’t help that GM doesn’t want to make the key programming feature a dealer-only affair,"
https://ls1tech.com/articles/sixth-g...son-is-simple/

Evergreen6 · 03-22-2024, 09:32 PM

This will be one to keep an eye on. I'd be curious *what* was shared with the analytics firms and how GM is able to spin this in the lawsuit.

I'm not sure that a VIN is PII by itself, or that Onstar even violated its own data sharing terms - that's for the lawyers to figure out. If this is Insurance companies supposedly buying depersonalized data from an analytics firm, but being able to make the connection on their end (having VIN, driving event information, and the primary driver's demographic information) then, is GM liable for what insurance companies do with that data?

Put some Jiffy Pop in the microwave. This is going to be interesting...

03-22-2024, 06:00 PM	#1
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CHASLT1 Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Tampa FL area Posts: 795	2 late now i hope and let em go under.

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Anjilslaire Drives: 2021 3LT RS A10 Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: South Sound, Washington Posts: 438	Reader mode in your browser bypasses the paywall. Also, this is good news.

03-22-2024, 07:22 PM	#8
LancevanceZLE Drives: 2019 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: CA Posts: 87	All you folks saying GM will never do anything...do you see how media attention and customer complaints can force a company to fix a bad situation? Now let's do the same for the theft situation.

03-22-2024, 08:44 PM	#11
Edwardo Drives: 24 Sharkskin Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 5	I like the way these companies always state they respect your privacy, except when there's money to be made. In a lot of cases the damage has already been done. Guys are paying more for their insurance and they are wondering why. If this goes to a classic action suit, many may ask for their share. Watch for lawyers to jump on this opportunity.

03-22-2024, 09:32 PM	#14
Evergreen6 Drives: 2023 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: United States Posts: 1,437	This will be one to keep an eye on. I'd be curious what was shared with the analytics firms and how GM is able to spin this in the lawsuit. I'm not sure that a VIN is PII by itself, or that Onstar even violated its own data sharing terms - that's for the lawyers to figure out. If this is Insurance companies supposedly buying depersonalized data from an analytics firm, but being able to make the connection on their end (having VIN, driving event information, and the primary driver's demographic information) then, is GM liable for what insurance companies do with that data? Put some Jiffy Pop in the microwave. This is going to be interesting...

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