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Old 11-13-2017, 11:40 AM   #1
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Love my ZL1 but what a statement the Demon makes

Looks to be on the wider stock tires also
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:45 AM   #2
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You love your ZL1? In your drives section it says Jeep SRT, love is strange.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:59 AM   #3
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:14 PM   #4
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of course they left the timers off.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:52 PM   #5
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You love your ZL1? In your drives section it says Jeep SRT, love is strange.
My Jeep is my daily driver, my ZL1 is my sunday morning bagel go getter.....
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:56 PM   #6
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The only statement I see it makes is that it's a 1 purpose car. That's nice if that's what you want, but that's also a lot easier to accomplish if you're only hitting 1 target.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:07 PM   #7
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I used to think that the Hellcat was a one purpose car too... until I went to the Bondurant road racing school. What an eye opening experience. If you can manage the weight of the car well with efficient trail braking and proper throttle squeeze, the car is a riot to drive around a track. The Demon is completely different, but I bet it stilll has some of those characteristics. With the wider track, I bet some guys will modify them for some proper track days.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:20 PM   #8
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The Demon is completely different, but I bet it stilll has some of those characteristics. With the wider track, I bet some guys will modify them for some proper track days.
Modding a car throws all comparison out the window and invalidates the statement altogether.

The Demon was specifically made to be a straight line monster and that's it. Sure, you can make it be other things, but that's not what the original target was set to.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:30 PM   #9
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Modding a car throws all comparison out the window and invalidates the statement altogether.

The Demon was specifically made to be a straight line monster and that's it. Sure, you can make it be other things, but that's not what the original target was set to.
I’m no Demon fan but I can respect what Dodge has done with both the Hellcat and Demon. Even after beating on a Hellcat for a week on a track, I didn’t got run out and buy one. However, I don’t think tires, pads and brake fluid modifications severely change the character of a car. The Demon has a wider track from the factory, so I’m sure some PSC2s or T’Rs would help handling quite a bit. Not sure what spring rates the Demon has versus a standard Hellcat. Can’t be that vastly different.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:45 PM   #10
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I used to think that the Hellcat was a one purpose car too... until I went to the Bondurant road racing school. What an eye opening experience. If you can manage the weight of the car well with efficient trail braking and proper throttle squeeze, the car is a riot to drive around a track. The Demon is completely different, but I bet it stilll has some of those characteristics. With the wider track, I bet some guys will modify them for some proper track days.
Hellcat might be a riot to drive (body roll) but still slower than a v6 Camaro at VIR lol.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:48 PM   #11
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Hellcat might be a riot to drive (body roll) but still slower than a v6 Camaro at VIR lol.
True that... but there’s always something faster out there (Radicals... haha)
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:51 PM   #12
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I’m no Demon fan but I can respect what Dodge has done with both the Hellcat and Demon. Even after beating on a Hellcat for a week on a track, I didn’t got run out and buy one. However, I don’t think tires, pads and brake fluid modifications severely change the character of a car. The Demon has a wider track from the factory, so I’m sure some PSC2s or T’Rs would help handling quite a bit. Not sure what spring rates the Demon has versus a standard Hellcat. Can’t be that vastly different.
It's a lot more than just a regular HC that's lightly tweaked.

Here's the Demon's stats:

35 percent lower rate front springs/28 percent lower rate rear springs
75 percent lower rate hollow front sway bar/44 percent lower rate rear sway bar

I'm also not speaking of the basic Hellcats in Challenger and Charger variety. I'm talking about the drag race specific Demon.

They also turned the boost way up and while I'm sure that's all fine and good on a 1/8, 1/4 or 1/2 mi... I'd be curious to see someone road racing a Demon, with that and their cooling systems and see how it handles the heat it's going to generate.. Pretty sure the rotors and pads will not like stopping the car over and over and over and I don't see mention of proper ventilation going to the wheel wells to help with heat. In fact, they've noted they even stepped down the brakes on the car from the HC models.

Also, there's a different converter in the car allowing for more slip and different lock up... all of this will require checking on or working on to handle 20m at a time on a road course stressing parts meant for 9s bursts.

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Old 11-13-2017, 02:06 PM   #13
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