[Gtkilrss]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

+1

A converter would be a "Bolt on with internal mods" category.

A bolt on is anything you can easily add or remove without disassembling a portion of the drivetrain.

LT's, exhaust, CAI, TB, intake manifold, UDP=Bolt On

Converter, DS, transbrake, cam, heads=Internal Mods

That's what I would consider fair.

All this argument. Imagine when I actually get rid of the stock exhaust and put headers on it. And an actual cai and msd intake.

[laynlo15]

They should both be considered the same, if your replace the stock converter with an aftermarket converter or you replace the stock clutch with an aftermarket clutch assy, then neither are stock and would have to be considered the same mod. It doesn't matter if its a wear item or not. Unless you put the same clutch in from the manufacturer its still an considered after market and not stock just like the converter. Neither should be considered internal, they should be considered aftermarket and not stock they are just links from the flywheel to the transmission.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

They should both be considered the same, if your replace the stock converter with an aftermarket converter or you replace the stock clutch with an aftermarket clutch assy, then neither are stock and would have to be considered the same mod. It doesn't matter if its a wear item or not. Unless you put the same clutch in from the manufacturer its still an considered after market and not stock just like the converter. Neither should be considered internal, they should be considered aftermarket and not stock they are just links from the flywheel to the transmission.

Can't say I agree, and neither does the NHRA. An aftermarket high stall converter will make your car quicker and would only be done for that reason. Saying this is the same thing as changing a clutch (which won't make your car any quicker unless your old one was toast) makes no sense to me personally. Furthermore, when I used to run the NHRA Stock class manual cars were allowed to upgrade the clutch, but automatics were not allowed to change to a high stall converter as that is a performance enhancing device.

[HZjr]

Back to the topic plz

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[Chemist]

Stock M6 with stock tires.

[laynlo15]

Hey, we disagree and its still all good. Have a good Memorial weekend.

[KyleL]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

Hey, we disagree and its still all good. Have a good Memorial weekend.

Hey, if you look on the mustang forums, they consider anything other than a s/c or nitrous a bolt on......but that's so they can say they're "bolt on" auto gt runs low 11's, but has a stall, aluminum ds, no seats and he's driving on a milkcrate, etc lol.

If you're talking ease of installation, some people might be able to "bolt on" a procharger quicker than they can drop a trans and swap the converter. Personally, I throw a stall in the same category as a cam...

[Merc]

Originally Posted by HZjr

Back to the topic plz

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Well said!

THIS NOT A CHAT THREAD OR BENCH RACE THREAD! KEEP THE IDLE CHAT UP AND I WILL CEASE TO UPDATE IT.

It's up to you Guy's now. Take your pick?

Fast List's just updated.

[Merc]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

+1

A converter would be a "Bolt on with internal mods" category.

A bolt on is anything you can easily add or remove without disassembling a portion of the drivetrain.

LT's, exhaust, CAI, TB, intake manifold, UDP=Bolt On

Converter, DS, transbrake, cam, heads=Internal Mods

That's what I would consider fair.

Bolt On's can include:

LT's
CAI
Converter
Gears
PTB
Axels
Driveshaft
Tune
Diff Swap
Clutch
Exhaust Mod's
Line lock
2 step or other electronics
UDP
Intake Manifold
Race Fuel or E85 Tune

NO CAM OR HEAD SWAP!

Like it or not, fair or not that's the way it is on Camaro 5 and 6 Fast List's and the rules will not be changing anytime soon.

[Cdflyer]

Tires used on the pass: Hoosier D06 28x10-17
Performance Mods (if any): tires only
Category submitted for: #3 bolt ons only no internal
Mods
R/T............ .358
60'............. 1.860
330'........... N/A
660'........... 7.811
660’ mph.... 92.08
1000'.......... 10.105
1320'.......... 12.042
1320’ mph…. 116.06
Name of the track: Byron Dragway, Byron, IL
Date of pass: 5/15/16
Weather conditions: Sunny and clear. Slight crosswind.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by toohighpsi

Thanks, Camaro is much faster, my Z06 is an all stock M7 (for now)... it's only gone 11.6 @ 125 on the Michelins. I don't have plans for it to be a drag car, but it will still need to run at least 140+MPH in the quarter

How much boost are you running with your heartbeat blower?

[Merc]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

How much boost are you running with your heartbeat blower?

This is not a dissscusion thread, try a PM to member.

[Tim Adams]

Tires used on the pass: Stock
Performance Mods (if any): None
Category submitted for: Bone stock A8
R/T .250
60' 1.826
330' 5.235
660' 7.997
660’ mph 89.30
1000' 10.359
1320' 12.352
1320’ mph 112.59
Name of the track:Byron Dragway, Byron IL
Date of pass:5/30/16

DA was 2575, hot 84 degrees. Rear tires were at 21psi

[jdasnt3]

Originally Posted by Tim Adams

Tires used on the pass: Stock
Performance Mods (if any): None
Category submitted for: Bone stock A8
R/T .250
60' 1.826
330' 5.235
660' 7.997
660’ mph 89.30
1000' 10.359
1320' 12.352
1320’ mph 112.59
Name of the track:Byron Dragway, Byron IL
Date of pass:5/30/16

DA was 2575, hot 84 degrees. Rear tires were at 21psi

Really good run with that DA! Congrats!